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Geek alert: Chip speed question...

alexd

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I have been quoted on a couple of systems for the new messageboard server. One system uses Pentium III 1.13 chips. The other uses Pentium III 1.26 chips. Both chip types have 512 caches.

How much faster is the 1.26 as a percent? It is *way* more expensive so I am wondering if .13 gHz more is really worth it...
 

labRat

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cost/performance i'd have to say that it would be best for you to get the 1.13. add as much RAM as you can and you'll have a faster system overall. but then again it would also depend on the entire motherboard as well.

i'm sure the likes of pr0nstar et al will tell you likewise.

--craig
 

alexd

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I understand these are the new "Tualatin" chips designed for servers. That Tom's Hardware article is talking about consumer grade 1.13's - the article is dated August 2000.
 
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alexd

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unfortunately (or fortunately) Apple doesn't make 1U rack servers that run Linux, which is what the board is on.
 

Syntax Error

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i guess i've just been told! although i beleie that OS X, operates as a unix based system. i don't know what i'm talking about!
 
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Fir3start3r

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Originally posted by alexd
I have been quoted on a couple of systems for the new messageboard server. One system uses Pentium III 1.13 chips. The other uses Pentium III 1.26 chips. Both chip types have 512 caches.

How much faster is the 1.26 as a percent? It is *way* more expensive so I am wondering if .13 gHz more is really worth it...
What exactly is *way* more? I haven't seen any prices...

Generally speaking, unless they've found a way to patch the 1.13 chip, don't even consider it.
If you do decide to get it, better find out their return policy on that CPU before you buy it.
If they say there is none, then they just told you everything you need to know bout THAT chip (running away, screaming with your arms in the air is a good option at this point).
It's cheaper because the dealer knows the CPU issue and is trying to dump their stock (onto you the customer), that's why the sweat deal. (I'm sure you knew that though).

You may want to reconsider your MHz option.
You don't necessarily need a monster machine for your server. Save yourself some $$$; get a 1Gig, beef up the RAM and maybe upgrade the HDD and you should be fine. :)
 

Fir3start3r

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Originally posted by alexd
way more is $800 more for the pair.
Ahhh...so this is a Dual CPU server?
I zee.....I zee....(takes out specs) tell me about your mother....(ie. what other specs you got and what else are you running? and oh yea...what are your current specs?)
 

alexd

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The board is currently running on a Cobalt RAQ 4 an AMD 450 server with 512 megs of ram and a 20 gig IDE drive.

The board will be running on a dual processor Intel 1.13 (or more) each with 512 mb L2 cache, 1 gig of RAM, and a 15k rpm SCSI drive
 
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Fir3start3r

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Originally posted by alexd
The board is currently running on a Cobalt RAQ 4 an AMD 450 server with 512 megs of ram and a 20 gig IDE drive.

The board will be running on a dual processor Intel 1.13 (or more) each with 512 mb L2 cache, 1 gig of RAM, and a 15k rpm SCSI drive
Are you sticking to that speed because of the mb? Which mb is it?
RAM and HDD = good stuff! :)
 

Fir3start3r

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Originally posted by alexd
ServerWorks HE-SL Chipset ( Utilizes memory interleaving for faster memory access )

Triple peer PCI bus architecture for 2 64-bit/66MHz PCI slots on separate dedicated PCI buses as well as a 32-bit/33MHz PCI bus supporting dual embedded 10/100 NICs

here:
http://www.tyan.com/products/html/thunderlet.html
Lots of goodies on this board...very nice... :)
If it's for this message board, it's going to smoke when you finally get it set up... :D

But which mb model exactly?
I'm assuming the one with the integrated SCSI controller? (Model: S2518UGN)

I'll look more into it for you tomorrow....geek sleep time.... ZZZzzzzz....:p
 

pr0nstar

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We recently ordered the 1.26, don't know the difference as we've not got them yet.

I think the 1.13 will be fine.

And people don't know what you're talking about :D You should of said dual Xeon P3s... and the people would shut up about AMD.

AMD are great for home systems... but for the server market they are no where near Intel with their Dual/Quad/Etc...

The system you told me about on the weekend sounds fine.
Save the cash and go with the 1.13Ghz.

OK, back to buying more stuff for me...

pr0nstar Waiting for his new LCD :D
 
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alexd

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I am going with the 1.13's. I am going to have to pay my service provider to move everything over so I will use the 'savings' for that.

thanks prOn
 

alexd

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They tell me it will take a week to build the system and then it will probably take another few days to configure it the way we want and copy the files over.

There may be an 8 hour board outage (they tell me) while the transfer happens. But that won't be for a little while. I will let you know exactly when.
 

echootje

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This brings up an interesting question I've always wondered about.

How much does the capacity of the processor actually affect performance of the server? Theoretically it should be more of a bandwidth/fast-storage issue although most server's are supersystems and this doesn't make logical sense to me.

Isn't the processor basically only passing queries and sorting data. Pure math stuff which shouldn't need that much processing power?

Rob
 

alexd

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I broke down and got the 1.26's. Deep, this message board upgrade has so far cost me $7000. Yikes.

On the upside however, I did figure out how to get rid of the message subject icons.
 

pr0nstar

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Originally posted by echootje
This brings up an interesting question I've always wondered about.

How much does the capacity of the processor actually affect performance of the server? Theoretically it should be more of a bandwidth/fast-storage issue although most server's are supersystems and this doesn't make logical sense to me.

Isn't the processor basically only passing queries and sorting data. Pure math stuff which shouldn't need that much processing power?

Rob
With general web servers that are static and images/text etc this is the case, CPU doesn't affect the performance generally and it's about bandwidth.

But with a Board based on databases, etc it matters how fast the server can index the database when it gets a request.

pr0nstar
 
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