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FYI: ATM Scam - Lebanese loop

Jazz

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FYI:

Just wanted to warn you about something that happened to me the other day.

I was getting some cash out at the cash point outside at HSBC George Street, Toronto. I put my card in and a message came up on the screen saying the machine was temporarily out of order. A lady approached me and told me that this had happened to her the other day and what I needed to do was key my pin number in and then press cancel twice. I did this and of course no card was returned.

I left the machine thinking that it had swallowed my card. But when I returned to HSBC the following morning, my card wasn't there.

According to the police this method of stealing bankcards is called the Lebanese loop'. A plastic envelope is made up that fits the hole in the machine perfectly. When you put your card in, the machine knows it is there but cannot read it and therefore the message comes up on the screen.

Once the pin number has been given away and the card left in the machine, it is then 'looped' out and the spending starts!
I had 500 taken from my Account before I realized what had happened and cancelled it.

The women who approached me at the cash point was late 40's in age, 5.3 in height, dark hair and eyes. The way she was dressed was smart as if she had just left work.


I've got to hand it to these grifters, pretty ingenious scam!
 
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Subsonic Chronic

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Wouldn't it not accept the card if it was displaying "temporarily out of order"?

Did you receive this in an email forward or from someone you know?

Was there a disclaimer that if you forward this message to ten people that you won't be scammed?

Pete
 
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Klubmasta Will

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if that bitch tried that to me, i'd give her a columbian necktie.

anyone up for a mexican breakfast? don't say yes if you mean no cuz nobody likes an indian-giver.
 

Jazz

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Originally posted by Subsonic Chronic
Wouldn't it not accept the card if it was displaying "temporarily out of order"?

Did you receive this in an email forward or from someone you know?

Was there a disclaimer that if you forward this message to ten people that you won't be scammed?

Pete

LOL... :D

Well, I just did a quick search on it and it turns out that the email is just a forward (it wasn't sent to me as a forward which is why I posted it), but the scam listed in it is 100% true...

http://abcnews.go.com/sections/scitech/DailyNews/atmfraud020110.html
 
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SlipperyPete

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Originally posted by Klubmasta Will
if that bitch tried that to me, i'd give her a columbian necktie.

anyone up for a mexican breakfast? don't say yes if you mean no cuz nobody likes an indian-giver.

I've reported this post to a moderator

MY RETINAS ARE BURNING AT YOUR HARSH WORDS
 
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noahmintz

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This thread wins funiest thread of the day!
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stu
 

Subsonic Chronic

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Originally posted by Klubmasta Will
if that bitch tried that to me, i'd give her a columbian necktie.

anyone up for a mexican breakfast? don't say yes if you mean no cuz nobody likes an indian-giver.

Ahaha... :D

Pete
 

echo

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Taken from Snopes "urban legend" page:

although the e-mail is suspect, the type of theft it warns ATM users to be wary of is possible. There are two forms of the "Lebanese loop," both of which can net a card thief your ATM card and your PIN, a combination known to be deadly to one's bank account. (Not all ATMs -- particularly more recent models -- can be fooled through this technique, however.)

In one method, a laminated card is placed over the ATM's video screen and a device inserted into the card slot to disable that mechanism. On the laminated card are printed instructions to enter one's PIN three times. The thief then hangs about to shoulder surf the victim ("shoulder surfing" being the term for "watching what number that person taps onto the keypad"). A customer arrives and loses his card to the machine. (And his PIN, because that was picked off by the eagle-eyed thief, but he's not yet aware of this turn of events.) Once he realizes the cashpoint will not be giving his card back, he will go into the bank, leaving the thief to quickly close upon the machine, remove the card-retaining device (which now contains the card), and make his getaway.

In another, a "helpful" stranger or two take the place of the fake sign, quickly volunteering the information that the evil machine held their cards captive until they hit upon entering their PINs over and over. It's a rare pigeon indeed who won't immediately act upon this freely-offered advice and take a shot at trying to get the ATM to release his own card by punching in his PIN again and again. But of course the "helpful" stranger(s) are now busy memorizing this code and will quickly scoop up the blocking device and the trapped card as soon as the victim goes off to seek help from bank personnel.

;)echo<---


Just in case you want to check out any other "warning" emails you get forwarded to you!

www.snopes2.com
 
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*SiLver*RoBoT*

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The actual story was on the news about a month or so ago...apparently it did happen, but not as frequent as everyone first thought.

*over*and*out*

*SiLver*RoBoT*
 

Gizmo

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Originally posted by Uncle Bobby


Hey, watch it Will, I'm part Lebanese! I'll kick your ass on friday! :)

UB.


Bring a Shawarma and I'll help you kick him in the ribs when he's down.
 

Jeremy Jive

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Originally posted by Uncle Bobby


Hey, watch it Will, I'm part Lebanese! I'll kick your ass on friday! :)

UB.

Can I make an order for some lemon garlic potatoes and some Tabouli?

jeremy -what does that come to with tax?- jive
 
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416

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Originally posted by *SiLver*RoBoT*
The actual story was on the news about a month or so ago...apparently it did happen, but not as frequent as everyone first thought.

*over*and*out*

*SiLver*RoBoT*

I dunno dude, who would say if it happened or not? The banks will conpensate you for the lost money, and they'll usually jump through hoops to make sure this crap doesn't get talked about in the media.

That's basically a low tech version of a scam I've heard about where some people put a fake ATM machine in a location. All the thing does is prompt you for your PIN and what you wanna do, then spits your card back out at you and tells you the transaction couldn't be completed, try again later.

Then the people who planted the machine come get it a week later and voila... the hard drive of the bank machine is full of track 2 info (where all the good stuff is on the back of your card) and corresponding PINs.

It actually happens quite a bit.
 

twist

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how could I stay mad at people who make such good hash... wait egypt makes some pretty good hash too... ah fuck it lets nuke lebanon... isn't egypt next to lebanon or something? fuck it i'll get my shit from BC.
 
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