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Family's Home Burns After Not Paying Fire Fee

Discussion in 'TRIBE Main Forum' started by TRO, Oct 7, 2010.

  1. TRO

    TRO TRIBE Member

    Written by Raven Clabough
    Thursday, 07 October 2010 11:45


    Tennessee firefighters in Obion County allowed a family’s home to burn to the ground last week because the family had not paid a $75 fee.

    Since Obion County does not have a county-wide firefighting service, South Fulton offers fire coverage to the county residents for a fee of $75, a policy that dates back for nearly 30 years. The Cranick family allegedly “forgot” to pay the fee, and as a result, lost their belongings, as well as their pets-three dogs and a cat.
    The fire began when Gene Cranick’s grandson was burning trash on the property. According to Fox News, the grandson, who lived in the Cranick home, “started the fire while burning trash in a barrel. He went inside to take a shower and upon returning saw a shed next to the house in flames. It spread despite his efforts to put it out with a garden hose.”

    The grandson, Lance Cranick, says, “This is something that I’ve got to live with the rest of my life. To see the house and everything you grew up in burning down before your eyes is kind of harsh.”

    Lance Cranick explained that South Fulton would not respond to the fire when he called, claiming he was told, “We wasn’t on their list.”

    “I was in shock,” he said.

    When speaking to the operator, Cranick offered to pay whatever fee was necessary in order to have firefighters come to his home to put out the fire, but his offer was denied.

    Firefighters did arrive, but only to stop the fire from spreading to the neighboring property, whose owner had paid the fire fee.

    South Fulton Mayor David Crocker asserts, “Anybody that’s not inside the city limits of South Fulton, it’s a service we offer. Either they accept it or they don’t.”

    However, Harold Schaitberger of the International Association of Firefiighters sees the decision to allow the home to burn as “incredibly irresponsible.”

    “Professional, career firefighters shouldn’t be forced to check a list before running out the door to see which homeowners have paid up. They get in their trucks and go.”

    South Fulton’s mayor, however, claimed that residents cannot be permitted to pay the fee on the spot, as then the only people who would pay the fee are those whose homes are on fire.

    Addressing the media’s vilification of the South Fulton fire department, conservative pundit Glenn Beck defended the department on his radio show:

    Here’s the thing that those who are just acting on raw feeling are not going to understand. It’s $75 at the beginning of the year. You pay it and they put your house it. If you don’t pay it, they don’t put your house out. If the firefighters put out the Cranick’s home even though they didn’t pay the fee, nobody would ever pay the $75. The fire department doesn’t have the money to put out people’s fires for free. What is the $75 for? To keep the firemen available. To keep the firetrucks running. To have people employed to put the fire out. If you don’t pay your $75, that hurts the fire department. They can’t use those resources and you would be sponging off of your neighbor's $75. This is the same case for paying health insurance fees.

    Similarly, National Review, came to the defense of the fire department, contending that the incident would likely serve as an “important lesson,” and will probably “save more houses over the long haul. I know that if I opted out of the program before, I would be more likely to opt-in now. As Edmund Burke said, example is the school of mankind and he will learn from no other.”

    Evidently, Cranick’s son did not agree with such rationale, as he was later arrested for attacking Fire Chief David Wilds at the firehouse for allowing his father’s home to burn down.

    Now living in a trailer home on his property, Gene Cranick indicates that his homeowner’s insurance will cover some of what was lost.

    “Insurance is going to pay for what money I had on the policy, looks like. But like everything else, I didn’t have enough.”

    Cranick’s wife, Paulette, has stated that she does not blame the firefighters for allowing her home to burn, asserting that they were simply following orders and admitting that they simply forgot to pay the fee.

    “You can’t blame them if they have to do what the boss says to do. I’ve had firemen call and apologize.”

    The community has offered its help to the Cranick family, but the family graciously turned down the offers, as they are receiving help from their insurance company.

    Local news station ABC 7 reports that the Obion County Budget Committee had decided to expand its subscription-only fire service to additional towns.

    Union City Fire Department Chief Kelly Edmison objects to the expansion, however, supporting instead a 13-cent increase in property taxes, which is allegedly all it would take to fund fire services for towns within the county.

    Edmison adds, “It eliminates this having 911 or whoever check to say, ‘Are they covered or not covered?’


    Family's Home Burns After Not Paying Fire Fee
     
  2. glych t.anomaly

    glych t.anomaly TRIBE Member

    saw this last night, i was like wow.

    *shakes head

    [jai]
     
  3. acheron

    acheron TRIBE Member

    while I don't have much sympathy for the guy for not playing by the rules set out in the society he chose to live in, I think it's reprehensible that the town is able to set up a fee-based, zero-tolerance emergency services program in the first place.
     
  4. Hi i'm God

    Hi i'm God TRIBE Member

    Thank god there are still towns that don't fall into the socialized services trap.
     
  5. TRO

    TRO TRIBE Member

    I love the fact that Glenn Beck chimed in on this.

    American's. freak. the. ever-loving. shit. out. of. me.
     
  6. AgentSanchez

    AgentSanchez TRIBE Promoter

    Holy fuck - Why not just charge a bundle for people who don't pay the $75 then decide they need the services in an emergency? $75/year prepaid or $1000-2500 one-time if you don't pay the $75 and need the services.
     
  7. Hybrid

    Hybrid TRIBE Member


    We Wasn't..........gee, I love the south.
     
  8. the_fornicator

    the_fornicator TRIBE Member

    That shit's cold, son.
     
  9. KickIT

    KickIT TRIBE Member

    Tax dollars hard at work!
     
  10. coleridge

    coleridge TRIBE Member

    Yeah agreed.

    There should have been a pay on the moment option to him. Much like how health care works in the US.

    Disgusting story.
     
  11. Dirty Girl

    Dirty Girl TRIBE Member

    ok kids, you keep spraying her down with hose. Im just gonna scoot the ten miles into town to hit the bank machine, so I have the 2 grand to pay the firefighters when they get here.
     
  12. Zorro

    Zorro TRIBE Member

    HA HA That's funny, you know what is funnier? The 500 dollar withdraw limit at the bank machine.
     
  13. Polymorph

    Polymorph TRIBE Member

    eh, don't bother. Just offer them a free lap-dance, right there on the spot!
    That house wouldv'e been saved!
    fucking hicks
     
  14. Persephone

    Persephone TRIBE Member

    Did you read the story? They explicitly stated that pay at time of use is not an option because then the potential for the majority of the county to use this option would result in the fire department not being sustainable. It would undermine the funding scheme entirely. However, the suggestion to charge an exorbitant fee at the time of the fire is one way to combat this situation without undermining the funding scheme too badly.

    It seems to me that the fire service is not entirely funded through taxes. In the US, citizens are so mistrusting of government and taxation in general that they'd rather pay for some services out of pocket (and in this case, choose not to pay for the service and take the associated risk) than have services such as the fire service funded entirely through taxation.
     
  15. coleridge

    coleridge TRIBE Member

    I read a different article on this yesterday that didn't go into the reasoning. But yeah that makes perfect sense.

    So the lesson is, the fee should be mandatory. :)
     
  16. Bumbaclat

    Bumbaclat TRIBE Member

    I agree with Glenn Beck.....and that doesn't make me feel very good about myself.
     
  17. Kinger

    Kinger TRIBE Member

    I feel bad for the 3 dogs and cat.
     
  18. coleridge

    coleridge TRIBE Member

    Yes, me too. Had their been a child in there, I'm guessing they would have bothered to go in and get them?
     
  19. diablo

    diablo TRIBE Member

    Idiots all around, TBH.
     
  20. Eclectic

    Eclectic TRIBE Member

    I find this line funny:

    Who in their right mind would insure them if they didn't pay the $75??
     
  21. acheron

    acheron TRIBE Member

    It's the States... you can make a bet with anyone on just about anything.

    I would imagine the difference between the premium to cover an un-served-by-the-fire-department house and one that paid the $75 fee, is a lot more than $75 per year. But there's logic for you.
     
  22. praktik

    praktik TRIBE Member

    In libertopia, families like this one would be taken care of by the charity of wealthy benefactors.
     
  23. Hi i'm God

    Hi i'm God TRIBE Member

    Whats the personal injury liability the city would face with people fighting their own fires?
     
  24. KickIT

    KickIT TRIBE Member

    The town arsonist should get a hold of that no-water list.
     

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