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Facial Microexpressions: can you pick them up?

PosTMOd

Well-Known TRIBEr
Apparently, some people are really good at picking up these so-called "microexpressions" that are 1/25 to 1/40 of a second long, very hard to block from appearing... you can test yourself at the following link... weird test though, so be careful and pay attention--you press a number, and pay attention as the face rapidly pops up an expression that you have to identify...

More about microexpressions: http://www.wired.com/news/culture/0,1284,60232,00.html

Test yourself:
http://www.cio.com/archive/120104/faces.html
 
That's a shitty test.

They're really fleeting expressions but are more fluid than the test shows - they're not as dramatically different from previous and post facial expressions as it shows.
 

KiFe

TRIBE Member
woo! only got 2 wrong.

I also noticed that joshb's battery is almost dead.... yes.. i'm THAT good!
 
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PosTMOd

Well-Known TRIBEr
daddyiwantchocolate said:
That's a shitty test.

They're really fleeting expressions but are more fluid than the test shows - they're not as dramatically different from previous and post facial expressions as it shows.
True... the test is good only in showing how fleeting microexpessions are, not for any realistic assessment...

The idea behind microexpressions (and expressions in general) is that people speak volumes non-verbally, and it is not easy to hide non-verbal expression from certain people... you can say one thing verbally, but your non-verbal cannot lie...
 

PosTMOd

Well-Known TRIBEr
Also, I think that the lack of non-verbal expression in CG is what keeps CG people in the Uncanny Valley. There is an emergent gestalt unavailable to reductionist programming.
 
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groovespinna

TRIBE Member
10/10
easiest test ever. what does this have to do with reading microexpressions? this is reading people with twitching issues. listen test maker people, I go to cozo, Ive seen twitching like all get out.
 

PosTMOd

Well-Known TRIBEr
daddyiwantchocolate said:
especially from psychopaths like me!
*eyebrow up*
Psychopaths cannot read facial expressions properly, especially fear and sadness. Also, psychopaths have no microexpressions... makes it easy for them to lie, but they also fall into the uncanny valley for that reason...

People really good at reading non-verbal would probably find psychopaths refreshing, since there are no microexpressions, and lies and truths are all mixed together... like talking to a robot...
 

Stan

TRIBE Member
That's the whole thing about talking online, too. There are no expressions, micro or otherwise, and no body language. The only thing you have is the content of your words. And emoticons. Shitty shitty emoticons.
 
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PosTMOd

Well-Known TRIBEr
Stan said:
The only thing you have is the content of your words.
"Brevity is the soul of wit", said wiley Will, who could make words work on so many levels...

It is too bad that so many people read only superficial content, without seeing the levels of content that can be so merrily mashed into a few words...

To wit:
You twit.

Sincerely,
Bro without wit
 

PosTMOd

Well-Known TRIBEr
annec said:
I thought this thread was about the lack of expression since botox...
Interestingly, botox is used by people who want to cover up their microexpressions, like businesspeople who want to lie during a deal or something.

From wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microexpression
A microexpression is a tiny facial expression that lasts less than a quarter of a second. They often occur involuntarily, and can reveal emotions people are trying to hide, or may not even be aware of themselves.

Most people do not seem to perceive microexpressions in themselves or others. However, in the Diogenes Project, Paul Ekman found that these tiny movements often can expose lying, and that a very, very small percentage of those he studied had a preternatural knack for detecting them. He now claims that anyone can be trained to see such microexpressions relatively easily.

The neurotoxin, Botulinum toxin, commonly known as Botox, is used in the medical cosmetic treatment of dystonia (involuntary muscle contractions) but it is also helpful in concealing unconscious facial microexpression. Neurotoxins operate by interfering with the normal signalling between nerve cells, in the case of Botox by inhibiting the release of a neurotransmitter. There are many different kinds of nerves, but the botulinum toxin attaches to nerves that control muscles (peripheral motor neurons). The botulinum toxin prevents the nerve from sending its chemical signal to the muscle, so in turn preventing the muscle from contracting. In the brain the difference between a conscious "lie" and a conscious "truth" is a difference in neurological pathways. These different pathways connect to different motor neurons, hence the twitching eye of the liar. Applied with the correct precision, Botulinum toxin can be used to specifically clog the "lying" pathways without hampering the "truthful" pathways.

Microexpressions are a kind of nonverbal communication. See body language.
 
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Beats-Mistress

TRIBE Member
8 right. That was easy.
Now what about manipulators that show a different exspression than what they really mean??? :eek:
 
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ila

TRIBE Member
2/10

haha. I'm autistic.

who fucking cares what other people are feeling anyway? fuck 'em :cool:
 
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