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Doug Ford, Premier

Discussion in 'TRIBE Main Forum' started by Bernnie Federko, Jun 14, 2018.

  1. Bernnie Federko

    Bernnie Federko TRIBE Member

    Will be interesting to see how this plays out. Does the DoFo manage to ride this out over the next few newscycles?

    Picking fights with Teachers is tried and true here, but healthcare? That's new. And covering it up with stories about consulting with experts, without actually doing so ... Whew....
     
  2. I think Ford's "experts" were the U.S. Insurance companies that came up to get a teaser of the two tier health system they're working on.
     
  3. Bernnie Federko

    Bernnie Federko TRIBE Member

    Maybe they'll offer free metropasses in exchange for support by folks and gather opposition against the liberal media for reporting fake news?
     
    Last edited: Feb 6, 2019
  4. +5 pts for working in "folks"
     
  5. Bernnie Federko

    Bernnie Federko TRIBE Member

    Do your own homework, el P.

    Frothy mcFroth Froth

    Italicize-the-term-Faux-Lib


    - resident cunservative lackey du tribe
     
  6. wickedken

    wickedken TRIBE Member

    Free metro passes, tax breaks, same thing to appease the frothy masses.
     
  7. Bernnie Federko

    Bernnie Federko TRIBE Member

    Except you think and act as though one frothy santorum brand is superior to another.

    The question is: Butt why?
     
  8. Maybe he's like Ron Burgandy and just says anything that's put in front of him.
     
  9. wickedken

    wickedken TRIBE Member

    I don't actually but I wouldn't expect this frothy mass here to notice since you guys don't actually read. It's all the same, none of which benefit me, but I know you guys take all you can get.
     
  10. Bernnie Federko

    Bernnie Federko TRIBE Member

    That's a couple of sad But's right there. Why so, wickedflyingbuttress mcFrothington?
     
  11. ndrwrld

    ndrwrld TRIBE Member

    So some friends and family have been messaging us, asking why we are upset about the autism funding changes.
    And while the way the convervatives spin it sounds good $140,000 for kids under six, let me make a few key points clear - the points they don’t share, in their interviews and press releases.

    1) the $140,000 is only if your child enters the program at the age of 2, and only if you are on the lowest end of the income scale. If your family makes $250,000 a year, there is nothing. Average income in Ontario is somewhere about 75k per household, so few families will actually get the 140k. The closer the child get to the age of six it also will slide down the scale.

    2) the 140k, if you are one of the lucky ones, is supposed to stretch until they are 18. There is also a yearly cap on how much you can actually use - 20,000. Which, from what I’m hearing is also now going to count as taxable income.

    3) if your child enters the program after their 6th birthday, the amount changes to 55,000 (again assuming you make 40k a year) to last them until they are 18. Again, a yearly cap as to how much you can use.

    4) transition to the new program will not be instant. We do not expect Lizzie to have anything after April 30th. It could take 18 months.

    So simple math here folks. Lizzie gets 40 hours a week for therapy @ $55 an hour (the standard amount set by the government). This translates to 2,200 a week. Three months worth is just about 29,000, or 116,000 a year. What the pc’s want to do is give her about 10,000 A YEAR (because, as a two income family with 4 kids, we fall right in the middle of the income scale). 10,000 divided by $55 is the equivalent to one month of therapy, give or take a day or two. Or 45 minutes a day. Your choice!

    Lizzie is not ready for full time school. Her doctors have said this. Her therapy team has said this. But, after April 30th, we won’t have a choice any longer. Imagine you not being able to have any say in how your child is educated. Oh wait though, it gets even better - we don’t know that the school can accommodate her until the beginning of the next school year, because their budgets for their already limited EA’s are already set for this year. There is no extra funding for schools to go along with this announcement. So what do we do? She can’t go to daycare. We will be left with nothing. One of us will have to quit our job in order to care for her.

    Do you see now? Is it clear? Do you see why we are angry? Our daughter’s rights have been violated. She will be denied an appropriate education, and the necessary therapy that will give her and us hope for her future. Even families who were on the wait list are upset, as they know that the piddly amount they are actually offering per year will not make a dent in what kids actually need for this to be effective.

    Yes, the wait list sucks. But there was hope for effective therapy at the end of it. Now there is not. And for those who say ‘something is better than nothing’ they will quickly realize once they get it, how wrong that is.
     
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  12. Mondieu

    Mondieu TRIBE Member

    Friends of mine are dealing with this. They laid it out for much the same as you have here.

    It’s fucking travesty.
     
  13. praktik

    praktik TRIBE Member

    Ya but wynnebag's emails!

    This is what happens when spite, instead of reason, animates voters.

    Face it - Ontario blows and is filled with horrible, stupid people.
     
  14. praktik

    praktik TRIBE Member

    That is complete shit. It seems some outcries have actually changed Ford a little bit on some issues - gotta hope for that while we wait til our next opportunity to change the fuckers out.
     
  15. Bernnie Federko

    Bernnie Federko TRIBE Member

    Who knew DoFo would do this shit?
     
  16. praktik

    praktik TRIBE Member

    I just wish there was some way we could have known!
     
  17. praktik

    praktik TRIBE Member

    Oh well - thats the armchair quarterback amirite?? Hindsight is 20/20!
     
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  18. Bernnie Federko

    Bernnie Federko TRIBE Member

  19. praktik

    praktik TRIBE Member

    "Your crazy uncle said it - we did it - please give us more money!"
     
  20. Bernnie Federko

    Bernnie Federko TRIBE Member

     
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    Bernnie Federko TRIBE Member

  22. Bernnie Federko

    Bernnie Federko TRIBE Member

  23. Bernnie Federko

    Bernnie Federko TRIBE Member

  24. praktik

    praktik TRIBE Member

    She's one of those yokels who stake their identity on hating of Toronto

    Big Toronto hater
     
  25. Bernnie Federko

    Bernnie Federko TRIBE Member

    We, of the bubble. They want our subway. And to make it look like our metropolitan ways are immoral and elitist. Yet they take the proceeds of our economic engine, and happily spread it around.
     
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