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KiFe

TRIBE Member
Anyone else lusting for canon's new 40D?

I know i am.. she will be mine before the holidays, i vow it!

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YES! Lookit the SIZE of that fuckin' screen!! hawt!

up to 3200 iso, DIGIC III, 6.5fps over 75 jpegs! jeezus.. someone pinch me!
 

threeflavours

TRIBE Member
I'm an upgrade junkie, I went from the 20d to the 30d even though there was not a whole lot of improvement, but the 40d has a whole slew of features that appeal to me, so I'm selling my 30d to get it..

If anyone is interested, there's a 30d for sale in the near future!
 
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Jeremy Jive

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I'm jonesing for the 40D like a whore for crack. I have 1 year to trade in my XT at Henry's so I'm going to save some more pennies to throw at it. I want to let it come out on the market for a bit and see how well it performs before I commit. It could end up being like the 1DS Mark II and have hardware issues.

Until they announced the release I was saving for a new 24-70 f/2.8L but I'd like to upgrade the body and stick with my 18-85 IS USM for now.

The 40 is still a 1.6x crop body. Going to a full frame would probably put it too close to the 5D and hurt sales in that model. The major improvements are
digic III processor
10.2 megapixel vs 8
automatic sensor cleaning
faster and smarter AF
larger 3" LCD
Live view (you can view like a compact P&S on the LCD)

Anyone see the new 1DS Mark III specs? Aiiii carumba. There is a flood of people unloading 1DS Mark II's to put money towards their upgrade.
And a whole bunch more.
 

alexd

Administrator
Staff member
thom100 said:
spoken as a true canan owner that had to rebuy all his lenses because of nikon falling behind the digital game;)

Nikon has just announced the D3 and a stack of new pro lenses that will be available in December. The D3 will use a 35mm size CMOS for image capture.

Specs in the next few posts.
 

alexd

Administrator
Staff member
Eight years after changing professional digital photography forever,
Nikon does it again with the new D3 FX-Format Digital SLR

Mississauga, ON, August 23, 2007 - Eight years after Nikon’s D1
camera changed professional digital photography forever, Nikon today
introduced the D3 - a new digital SLR camera that is poised to once
again revolutionize photography for professionals. The 12.1 effective
megapixel D3 features Nikon’s new FX-format sensor, measuring 23.9 x
36mm, which is nearly identical to the size of 35mm film. With the
fastest startup, shortest viewfinder blackout time of any digital SLR
camera, shortest shutter lag and the capability to shoot up to 9 frames
per second at full FX-format resolution, the D3 is the world’s fastest
digital SLR camera in its class.*

Designed with sports photographers and photojournalists in mind, the
Nikon D3 introduces an astounding list of brand new features and
technologies that make it the most sophisticated and advanced Nikon
digital SLR to date. In addition to the new FX-format CMOS sensor, the
D3 features Nikon’s new EXPEED Image Processing System that is central
to the amazing speed and processing power of the D3’s new features.

Images taken with the D3 reflect exceptional overall quality, broad
tonal range and depth, along with extremely low-noise throughout its
normal ISO range of 200 to an impressive 6400. By setting the camera to
its built-in options of Lo-1 or Hi-2, the ISO range of the camera can be
expanded to the equivalent of ISO 100 or ISO 25,600 respectively,
offering unmatched versatility in practically any shooting situation.
The D3 also features an entirely new 51-point autofocus system with
Nikon’s 3D Focus Tracking feature and two new LiveView shooting modes
that allow photographers to frame a photograph using the camera’s high
resolution LCD monitor. The D3 uses the world’s first Scene
Recognition System to greatly enhance the accuracy of autofocus, auto
exposure and white balance detection in the camera by recognizing the
subject or scene being photographed and applying this information to the
calculations for the three functions.

Nikon’s Sensor Formats: FX and DX
Nikon’s digital SLR cameras based on its DX-format sensor have been
hugely successful and represent an excellent combination of high image
quality, size and value. While the DX-format has been widely accepted
by professional photographers and photo enthusiasts around the world,
there is an increasing demand among professionals for a digital SLR
camera that features higher ISO sensitivity, wider dynamic range and
offers the same relationship between picture angle and depth-of-field
that were the hallmarks of the 35mm film format.

Responding to this demand, Nikon has developed the D3 as its first
digital SLR camera that features the Nikon FX-format CMOS sensor to meet
the real-world requirements of its customers. The D3 delivers full
resolution 12.1 megapixel images at up to 9 frames per second when used
with a conventional NIKKOR lenses. When used with DX NIKKOR lenses, the
D3 automatically switches to the DX-format mode that uses a cropped
portion of the sensor to generate 5.1 megapixel resolution images. In
DX-format mode, the D3 automatically masks the portion of the viewfinder
that will not be photographed and enables the capability to shoot up to
11 frames-per-second.

Both Nikon FX and DX formats provide their own advantages and Nikon
recognizes that both formats are necessary in order to satisfy their
diverse customers’ demands. Based on this recognition, Nikon will
strengthen its D-SLR line-up with the addition of the D3 FX-format SLR
camera and a broadened assortment of NIKKOR interchangeable lenses,
while continuing to develop and market high performance DX format
cameras and lenses.

The Most Intelligent Nikon Ever
The D3 introduces a range of innovative technologies and features that
significantly improve the accuracy, control and performance professional
photographers can get from their equipment. Nikon’s exclusive Scene
Recognition System advances the use of Nikon’s acclaimed 1,005-segment
sensor to recognize colours and light patterns that help the camera
determine the subject and the type of scene being photographed, before
an image is captured. This information is also used to improve the
accuracy of autofocus, auto exposure and white balance detection
functions in the D3. For example, the camera can track moving subjects
better in all directions and by identifying them. It can also
automatically select focus points faster and with greater precision, and
analyze scene highlights and more efficiently determine exposure, as
well as infer light sources to deliver more accurate white balance.

The D3 incorporates Nikon’s new Multi-CAM 3500FX autofocus module
that features an intelligent array of 15 cross-type sensors and 36
horizontal sensors. These sensors can be used either individually or in
groups, with the option for Single Area AF mode and Dynamic AF modes
using groups of either 9, 21 or all 51 focus points. The system also
features 3D Focus Tracking with automatic focus point switching that
takes advantage of all 51 AF points as it uses colour and light
information to accurately track the subject. Nikon's new Scene
Recognition System and improved focus algorithms also contribute to the
impressive performance of the new 51-point AF system.

Nikon's new Picture Control System makes it easy for users of all
experience levels to select and apply the desired adjustments and create
optimized settings to suit their individual preferences. The same
settings produce consistent picture tone, even when using different
camera bodies. The Picture Control System offers four basic setting
options - Standard, Neutral, Vivid and Monochrome. These can be directly
modified for easy adjustment and customization of image parameters,
(sharpening, tone compensation, brightness, tone and saturation).
Photographers can customize and store up to 9 Picture Controls in the D3
and export up to 99 to a CF memory card, enabling photographers to share
settings within multiple D3 cameras.

Photographers will quickly find that the D3’s new Active D-Lighting
control provides remarkable real-time highlight and shadow correction
with optimized image contrast. Active D-Lighting produces broader tone
reproduction in both shadows and highlights by controlling highlights
and exposure compensation while applying localized tone control
technology to achieve a more pleasing level of contrast across the
entire image. And because the advantages of Active D-Lighting are
applied as images are captured, image editing time can be shortened.

The D3’s LiveView feature offers two modes for confirming subjects
and composition on the new 920,000-dot, ultra high-resolution 3-inch LCD
monitor. The Hand-held mode allows recomposing of the frame prior to
actual shooting, using the camera’s standard phase-detection auto
focus system with all 51 AF points activated. The second mode, called
Tripod mode, is designed for precise focus accuracy with still subjects
and while the camera is mounted on a tripod. The Tripod mode uses focal
plane contrast auto focus to achieve pinpoint focus on a desired point.
The D3 also offers the capability to remotely control the camera while
in LiveView mode, allowing focusing and shooting from a computer either
over a wired or wireless connection, when using the optional Camera
Control Pro 2 software.

The Fastest FX Format Camera in the World
The D3 has the fastest reaction times of any camera in its class. Its
shutter release time lag is only 37 milliseconds and its start up time
is approximately 0.12 seconds. It is capable of continuously shooting
approximately 9 frames per second in full resolution with FX format, or
up to 64 consecutive frames in JPEG, Normal compression. For NEF (RAW)
files, the D3 can shoot up to 20 or up to 17 consecutive frames
depending on whether it is set to 12 bit or 14 bit images. When using a
DX-format lens, the camera automatically switches to DX-format mode
adjusting the resolution of the camera to 5.1 megapixels. In the
DX-format mode, photographers also have the opportunity to increase the
speed at which the camera can take pictures by limiting the auto
exposure and going up to 10 frames per second or limiting both auto
exposure and auto focus and going up to 11 frames per second.

Refined Ergonomics and Usability
The D3 reflects Nikon’s most streamlined, functional and
aesthetically pleasing layout in a digital SLR camera, all designed so
photographers can take pictures with greater accuracy and comfort.
The camera’s viewfinder provides 100 per cent frame coverage for
accurate framing, while an ultra-high definition, 920,000 dot VGA LCD
screen on the rear of the camera displays images with vivid colour and
clarity. The 170-degree wide viewing angle makes composing shots using
the LCD screen in LiveView mode easy. The D3 also features a unique
Virtual Horizon digital level sensor that indicates the camera’s
alignment relative to the true horizon on the rear LCD screen or in the
viewfinder.

The D3 also features two CompactFlash™ card slots that can be used for
consecutive recording (overflow), simultaneous recording (backup),
separating recording of RAW and JPEG files or even copying pictures
between the two cards. Images can be displayed directly from the camera
to a high-definition monitor using the camera’s HDMI port and an
optional cable.

The D3 is designed for professional use in demanding conditions. The
exterior jacket of the D3 is crafted entirely out of magnesium alloy and
the camera’s shutter unit is tested to 300,000-cycle releases. The
3.0-inch LCD is strengthened with tempered glass and rubber gaskets and
seals to protect vulnerable entry points from dust and moisture.

Availability
The D3 will be available from select Authorized Nikon Canada
Professional Dealers beginning in December 2007.

Major Features
* 12.1-megapixel FX-format (23.9 x 36mm) CMOS Sensor
* WORLD’S FASTEST 9 frames per second continuous firing at full FX
resolution and up to 11fps in DX Crop mode
* Extreme low-noise from ISO 200-6400 (Lo-1, Hi-1 & Hi-2 ISO options
for expanded ISO range)
* ISO setting options up to 25,600
* Fast, accurate 51 Area AF with 3D Focus Tracking
* Nikon’s exclusive EXPEED digital image processing technology
* 12 or 14-bit output through a 16-bit processing pipeline
* 3.0-inch Super Density 920,000-dot VGA Colour Monitor with 170-degree
Wide-angle viewing and tempered-glass construction
* 2 LiveView shooting modes
* Nikon’s exclusive Scene Recognition System, further leveraging the
power and intelligence of the core of Nikon’s improved 1,005-Pixel 3D
Colour Matrix Metering II
* Auto White Balance integrated with pure white detection, subject
recognition and evaluation and colour analysis of light source
* Enhanced autofocus tracking performance
* Self-diagnostic shutter system, tested to 300,000 cycles
* Auto DX Crop mode for DX NIKKOR lenses
* Virtual Horizon graphic level indicator
* Lateral Chromatic Aberration Correction for reduced JPEG artifacts
and moiré
* Active D-Lighting image enhancement
* In-Camera Image Editing
* Durable magnesium-alloy body and chassis
* Advanced dust and moisture protection
* Maximum burst rate up to 67 JPEG or 17 NEF (RAW) Images*
* Dual CF memory card slots
* Picture Control settings for advanced colour control
* 51-area Spot Metering
* Improved i-TTL flash control
* Lo-1, Hi-1 & Hi-2 ISO options for expanded ISO range (100 to 25,000)
* WT-4a Wi-Fi Transmitter with 802.11 a/b/g protocols
* HDMI direct connection to HDTV monitor or TV for image playback

Additional D3 Features and Technologies
* Real-time battery Fuel Gauge
* Sound recording for annotating images
*GPS compatibility with optional MC-35 cord (location and direction)
* Image Authentication with Nikon’s optional Image Authentication
Software
* Variable Centre-Weighted Metering
* FP High Speed flash sync to 1/8,000 with 1/250 sec X sync
* Shutter Speeds from 30 seconds to 1/8,000 sec
 

Jeremy Jive

TRIBE Member
I just got a call about these new Nikons. The new Nikon Probody just punched Canon right in the junk.

Full VGA screen? are you kidding me?
14 bit output?
ISO 25,600? That has to be a typo (and hardly useable)
HDMI output?
9 fps?

Canon kills them in megapixels but people have been more than getting by on 12 megapixels for a very long time.

Damn you Nikon!
 

Aerius Zension

TRIBE Member
In "the" face Thom :p

I was just going to post those specs. Nikon just brought an uzi to a knife fight. The HDMI output is no biggie, Sony was doing this first with their 1080p, and, according one rep, anything above 2.0MP is HD quality. It's just there's never been outputs that supported it.

The 920,000 pixels is a little crazy for a 3" screen.

It'll at least pave the way for full frame to become more common and affordable in the years to come, cause conversion is annoying.

Jer, how are you able trade your XT back to Henry's?
 
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thom100

TRIBE Member
what is the price point for this D3?
seems like it is just nikons shot at the canon 5D. They blow a lot of hot air about making the camera smarter, which just makes the photographer dumber.
Until nikon cleans up their noise issues in low light situations they can add all the bells and whistles you want it still wont be a great camera.
 

thom100

TRIBE Member
ha ha that nikon is going to retail for US$4999.95, basically double the canon 5D and it is out a year later.
 

Jeremy Jive

TRIBE Member
thom100 said:
ha ha that nikon is going to retail for US$4999.95, basically double the canon 5D and it is out a year later.
Ya but it's supposed to compete against the 1DS Mark III and the 1D Mark II which are both significantly more expensive. Against the 5D it's not a huge leap.
 

KickIT

TRIBE Member
I bought the Pentax 10D a few months ago and love it. The lens selection is a little sparse right now but that will change soon enough. It's priced around the same as the Xti and D80 but has alot more features and it's weather sealed. Definitely worth checking out.

*c*
 

thom100

TRIBE Member
Jeremy Jive said:
Ya but it's supposed to compete against the 1DS Mark III and the 1D Mark II which are both significantly more expensive. Against the 5D it's not a huge leap.

naw man it is a 12 mega pixel as is the 5D, 1ds mark III is 21mp, mark II is 16mp.
 
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Jeremy Jive

TRIBE Member
thom100 said:
naw man it is a 12 mega pixel as is the 5D, 1ds mark III is 21mp, mark II is 16mp.
True enough. Which is the 1 series that is the 10 mega pixel? I"m swamped right now and can't recall off the top of my head and can't check. That was the one I was trying to refer to.
 

Jeremy Jive

TRIBE Member
51 point autofocus on the 300D compared to Canon's 9 point on the 40D. That's an uzi at a knife fight. Yet it's the availability and cost their lenses that pushed me back to Canon.

I will admit that I do miss the feel and some features of the Nikon that I used briefly.
 

alexd

Administrator
Staff member
There is some stuff on the D3 that I am liking, like the dual CF card slots. I wish my D2X had that! But my D2X has the same amount of resolution in a smaller ccd so I'm not complaining.

I have used the Canons and I still like my Nikon better because it feels better in my hand, is more intuitive, and the flash systems are way better.

The other thing is, when you are talking about 21megapixl slr, not many pros are going to use that in the field because there is no need for it. Magazines and newspapers or any kind of CMYK press for reading material aren't going to use files that big anyway. Unless that tiny spot on the frame is the loch nes monster and you want to blow it up to a size where some other people can see it. then again, anyone who buys a pro camera is going to own a long lens or 2 anyways so that ain't going to happen.

And as for the studio, although liked Canon's tethered feature where you can fire and dump the images directly onto a laptop, most pros would use a medium format camera with a decent digital back in the studio that may have less tha 21 megapixels anyway (but they are great megapixels!). Then of course it was nikon that invented the wifi enabled bodies like my D2X so you can wander around a concert for example and beam images to a laptop backstage.

Its a question of preference I guess.
 

KiFe

TRIBE Member
I still don't really see what all the fuss is about re: MORE multipoint AF... i mean, when i shoot with my camera, i ALWAYS have it set to single-centerpoint af... i sight in my subject, frame the shot, then shoot.

Does anyone actually count on the multi-point af to make the right choice for you? All it took was a couple af mistakes before i realized that it's pretty much useless to me, since then i shoot AF using single center. I've never looked back and it has never adversely affected my shooting speed or quality.
 

d.code

TRIBE Member
51 af points?

Thats rediculous. Especially when your thinking of your composition... rule of 3rds anyone?

How ever- this D3 sounds super sexy. Who really needs an iso of 25,000? Im intrested in the ultra low noise for 100-1600. My D70s is still suiting me fine. Im very used to its features, feels great in my hand and does what I need it to do (when I attach a lap top to it).
 
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Jeremy Jive

TRIBE Member
I'm hoping that all this fighting between Canon and Nikon will drive some great prices on bodies during the holiday season. I was tempted to pick up the 40D soon but I"m going to wait and invest the money into a 24-70 2.8L instead then wait for the holiday sales and pick up the new body.

Now I just have to find a good used lens.
 
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