Subsonic Chronic
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Could be. Whatever it was fucked with his insulin/sugar levels big time.
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Creatine - Yay or nay?
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Could be. Whatever it was fucked with his insulin/sugar levels big time.
Jeremy Jive
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I can't take the stack because of kidney problems. The contents of stacking has negative affects on your kidneys. I'll skip out on that option for now.
jeremy -gonna give it a whirl- jive
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junglegirl
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taken from: http://bodybuilding-supplement-guide.com/creatine-side-effects.html
Short Term Creatine Side Effects
Some of the most common short term creatine side effects reported include nausea, stomach upset, dizziness or weakness, loose stools, diarrhea, muscle cramping, and weight gain, and generally occur with dosages greater than 5 grams a day.
Another minor side effect is dehydration. This side effect can be minimized by drinking plenty of water when taking creatine. In addition, people tend to have more creatine side effects when taking the powder as opposed to a more direct delivery method like serum or effervescent powder.
Strains and sprains can occur or perhaps even muscle tears when over enthusiastically individuals rapidly increase their workout regimen before their tendons and ligaments have adapted to the increase in muscle size and power.
I have also come across another possible side effect to add to the creatine side effects list. Taking high doses of creatine may cause anxiety or depression. Time will tell whether creatine is responsible for these cognitive changes.
There are no reports to date that creatine monohydrate have an effect on the size of genital organs or has a substantial effect, positive or negative, on sex drive. Creatine doesn't seem to have a direct effect on libido, although feeling good about your toned body could help your self-image. For example, how others react to you and make you feel more attractive and sexual.
Short term creatine supplementation does not seem to affect blood pressure, heart rate, or kidney function. A small to modest amount of alcohol intake should not interfere with low dose creatine use. I don't advise taking creatine while pregnant. There are also no reports of creatine having an influence on hair loss.
It is important to understand that creatine does not effect your hormone levels. This means you do NOT get side effects like bad skin and mood swings. It is also important to note that everyone is different. While 95% of the people may have no problems with creatine supplements - it might just bother your stomach a little. In the end if you find that one of the creatine side effects causes you problems then it makes sense not to use it.
Short Term Creatine Side Effects
Some of the most common short term creatine side effects reported include nausea, stomach upset, dizziness or weakness, loose stools, diarrhea, muscle cramping, and weight gain, and generally occur with dosages greater than 5 grams a day.
Another minor side effect is dehydration. This side effect can be minimized by drinking plenty of water when taking creatine. In addition, people tend to have more creatine side effects when taking the powder as opposed to a more direct delivery method like serum or effervescent powder.
Strains and sprains can occur or perhaps even muscle tears when over enthusiastically individuals rapidly increase their workout regimen before their tendons and ligaments have adapted to the increase in muscle size and power.
I have also come across another possible side effect to add to the creatine side effects list. Taking high doses of creatine may cause anxiety or depression. Time will tell whether creatine is responsible for these cognitive changes.
There are no reports to date that creatine monohydrate have an effect on the size of genital organs or has a substantial effect, positive or negative, on sex drive. Creatine doesn't seem to have a direct effect on libido, although feeling good about your toned body could help your self-image. For example, how others react to you and make you feel more attractive and sexual.
Short term creatine supplementation does not seem to affect blood pressure, heart rate, or kidney function. A small to modest amount of alcohol intake should not interfere with low dose creatine use. I don't advise taking creatine while pregnant. There are also no reports of creatine having an influence on hair loss.
It is important to understand that creatine does not effect your hormone levels. This means you do NOT get side effects like bad skin and mood swings. It is also important to note that everyone is different. While 95% of the people may have no problems with creatine supplements - it might just bother your stomach a little. In the end if you find that one of the creatine side effects causes you problems then it makes sense not to use it.
Bass-Invader
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this is a porblem with or without supplements.
I see your point, and know what your going to say, probably some sports supplement company.
I'm email my friend she works for some University out in Philadelphia, she does sports nutrition research etc. Did a huge study of creatine not to long ago. Let me see what I can find out.
Littlest Hobo
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I take creatine after workouts. I'm not mongo, but I see some results.
dude if you are tireed and run down and can't get anything don ein the gym....you might be over-trained. and if it is just fatigue, well....your body is sending you signals. get some rest, take a break for a week or 2. trying to push through fatigue is always the worst move you can make. taking any substance to try to energize yourself will only run you down further, setting you up for a nasty bout with the flu or a bad cold, or worse, an injury to a muscle, joint, or tendon as you overcompensate for your fatigue.
always listen to what you body tells you.
mike
Subsonic Chronic
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Are you sure he wasn't telling you it was creatine while he was really doing steroids?
I've never heard of creatine-rage.
Creatine is an incredibly simple supplement. I think its way too buzz word these days.
Also, Subsonic hit it on the nose with creatine = hidden steriod use. Its the ultimate excuse because people dont know shit.
Creatine should really only be used if you're dealing with a strength plateau or if you're building aggressively. Even then, you should already have plenty of training under your belt to get the most out of the extra fuel.
The water retention helps the "pump" on your muscles. A lot of your muscle growth is contested by the sheath that contains all muslces in your body. You have to actively stretch the seath to allow room for new fibers.
Also, Subsonic hit it on the nose with creatine = hidden steriod use. Its the ultimate excuse because people dont know shit.
Creatine should really only be used if you're dealing with a strength plateau or if you're building aggressively. Even then, you should already have plenty of training under your belt to get the most out of the extra fuel.
The water retention helps the "pump" on your muscles. A lot of your muscle growth is contested by the sheath that contains all muslces in your body. You have to actively stretch the seath to allow room for new fibers.
My friend does it and I brought up the same point to him, that its only water gain. However he says that it provides a lot of strength in his workouts which in return help the muscle mass. Which makes sense, yoo lose a lot in the end, but in the meantime as long as you follow a strict regimen (sp?) then you will put on the desired pounds your looking for.
Personally, my diet consists of pasta, tuna, bread, peanut butter, potatoes and chicken. (and other foods of course, but these I will get a serving of each into me daily) I have yet to add a supliment to my workout. (CANT WAIT TO GET A WORKOUT GYM IN MY PLACE THOUGH!!) Looking for a good deal still
Creatine = NAY for me
Cheers,
Zigg'
Personally, my diet consists of pasta, tuna, bread, peanut butter, potatoes and chicken. (and other foods of course, but these I will get a serving of each into me daily) I have yet to add a supliment to my workout. (CANT WAIT TO GET A WORKOUT GYM IN MY PLACE THOUGH!!) Looking for a good deal still
Creatine = NAY for me
Cheers,
Zigg'
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to continue on my previous post....and this is just a personal rant of mine....most gyms and the trainers that work in them are absolutely clueles as to how to advise people to train effectively. gym owners don't give a rat's ass about peoples health. they just want to cash in on the big $$$ in the health club industry (the smart ones know how to cash in anyways).
it's all about periodization friends. lifting the same old weights week after week, with the same excercises is useless. your body will plateau after about 6 weeks or so at the max.
any balanced weight training program (or cardio program) will have you progress through training cycles. i highly recommend slowly building for 3 weeks (no more than 10% more weight per week), then slowing down the 4th week to 75% of the previous weeks weight. it gives your body time to adjust to the workout level and the stres being placed on your muscles/joints etc.
and most importantly, you have to build REST into your training programs. easy to say, hard to do, especially if you are a type A personality that always feels the ned to go harder or heavier.
there are tons of variations on periodization...it all depends on your goals, your present level of fitness, how much time you have to devote in the gym, what sport you are specialising for etc etc. find a good trainer and get some proper advice. everyone can and should get 1 consultation per month as it is well within anyones means.
rant over
mike
it's all about periodization friends. lifting the same old weights week after week, with the same excercises is useless. your body will plateau after about 6 weeks or so at the max.
any balanced weight training program (or cardio program) will have you progress through training cycles. i highly recommend slowly building for 3 weeks (no more than 10% more weight per week), then slowing down the 4th week to 75% of the previous weeks weight. it gives your body time to adjust to the workout level and the stres being placed on your muscles/joints etc.
and most importantly, you have to build REST into your training programs. easy to say, hard to do, especially if you are a type A personality that always feels the ned to go harder or heavier.
there are tons of variations on periodization...it all depends on your goals, your present level of fitness, how much time you have to devote in the gym, what sport you are specialising for etc etc. find a good trainer and get some proper advice. everyone can and should get 1 consultation per month as it is well within anyones means.
rant over
mike
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Agree 100%. Seen many friends suddenly put on some serious gains in a short period of time. "Creatine" is always the answer I get. With a wink and a nod.
I wouldnt go as far and say people who hide A/S use by saying they use just creatine know shit, quite a few know what they are doing.
Creatine is a great supplement when used correctly, but it is no magic bullet that will add 10-20lbs of lean muscle.