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praktik
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Theres more risk to the flu for me than the shot - and even if I still get the flu its course is likely to be reduced impact than had I been unvaccinated.
So the risk reward ratio still makes it a no brainer.
Ontario has higher flu vaccine rates than other provinces, and this smart decision making here has resulted in less deaths: PLOS Medicine: The Effect of Universal Influenza Immunization on Mortality and Health Care Use
So the flu vaccine is still worth getting - it has almost zero chance of hurting you, and the worst outcome is the flu you do get runs a shorter/milder course.
Best outcome is you dont get sick and threaten the elderly people around you with transmission of something that kills thousands of people every year.
Incorrect. They were quite effective at transferring our tax dollars to a pharmaceutical company
Bernnie Federko
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Where does the whole Flouride as neurotoxin vs Not currently reside, anyway?
praktik
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Snopes on the CDC Whistleblower story, which was referenced on the Nightly show and has been making the rounds in anti vax circles since the summer.
Every few weeks it gets sent my way on FB or its referenced in an antivax debate.
snopes.com: Fraud at the CDC Uncovered?
Its a manufactured controversy and its main pushers are committed, lifelong anti-vaccine activists, including the now discredited Andrew Wakefield and Brian Hooker - both of whom have axes to grind.
Every few weeks it gets sent my way on FB or its referenced in an antivax debate.
snopes.com: Fraud at the CDC Uncovered?
Its a manufactured controversy and its main pushers are committed, lifelong anti-vaccine activists, including the now discredited Andrew Wakefield and Brian Hooker - both of whom have axes to grind.
praktik
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Its another fake controversy:
Fluoride: Still Not Poisoning Your Precious Bodily Fluids!
And some bitter fruit in Calgary after removing
Dental decay rampant in Calgary children, pediatric dentist says - Calgary - CBC News
This one has had legs for about 5 decades, was featured in a classic movie of course..
Proving stubborn and getting a 2nd life as, according the principle of crank magnetism, it gets picked up by anti-gmo, anti-vaccine, luddie anti-modern world forces... Pretty easy to get into if you're into the whole chemophobia thing.
Bernnie Federko
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praktik
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New doc is out soon, titillating the Zeitgeist massiv over @ Godlikeproductions
Gray State is the name of the film and it focuses more on coming economic ruin: In just the trailer alone - empty shelves in the stores, stock market panic, society collapses, FEMA Camps happen, government spies on you in your home like 1984, martial law, RFID implanted to be required for shopping. Theres even some fantasies of True Patriots plotting to overthrow the New Evil Government and lots of scenes of Evil Government Agents in riot gear shooting at the Sheeple, and stuff...
This could be the "next big doc" in a long line of documentaries that seem to push the movement along, but no cash yet, have 10k of the 50k they need to get the movie made
Gray State is the name of the film and it focuses more on coming economic ruin: In just the trailer alone - empty shelves in the stores, stock market panic, society collapses, FEMA Camps happen, government spies on you in your home like 1984, martial law, RFID implanted to be required for shopping. Theres even some fantasies of True Patriots plotting to overthrow the New Evil Government and lots of scenes of Evil Government Agents in riot gear shooting at the Sheeple, and stuff...
This could be the "next big doc" in a long line of documentaries that seem to push the movement along, but no cash yet, have 10k of the 50k they need to get the movie made
praktik
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...then FAST FORWARD
and looks like...
No evidence of struggle in Apple Valley murder-suicide, police say - TwinCities.com
Apple Valley couple and their child dead in apparent murder-suicide | Star Tribune
Kind of a sad story, but thought I would post it for its relevance to the thread... Filmmaker devolved into a bit of an asbinth binge just before the big tragedy - and of course this bizarre episode is fodder for a new set of CTs alleging he was "taken out" by the authorities to stop the movie from being made....
and looks like...
No evidence of struggle in Apple Valley murder-suicide, police say - TwinCities.com
Apple Valley couple and their child dead in apparent murder-suicide | Star Tribune
Kind of a sad story, but thought I would post it for its relevance to the thread... Filmmaker devolved into a bit of an asbinth binge just before the big tragedy - and of course this bizarre episode is fodder for a new set of CTs alleging he was "taken out" by the authorities to stop the movie from being made....
praktik
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Deepak is trying to breathe life into AIDS denialism, saying people have AIDS because they are thinking the wrong thoughts....
https://bogardiner.wordpress.com/20...-more-dangerous-than-faith-healing-hucksters/
https://bogardiner.wordpress.com/20...-more-dangerous-than-faith-healing-hucksters/
praktik
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Hes got that good underlying message of peace and love, and I think it has far too many people giving him the benefit of the doubt.
I think you can get that from someone that doesn't have such a cult of celebrity, and such a history of conflict with science making them say ridiculous and dangerous things.
I think you can get that from someone that doesn't have such a cult of celebrity, and such a history of conflict with science making them say ridiculous and dangerous things.
praktik
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It kind of gets at the sad underbelly of the modalities and narrative pushed by Deepak CHopra - because it can sometimes feel liberating to feel you can really will your way out of something, and maybe just believing that you can sometimes can really make a difference in recovery!
But the other side of it is much darker - it is where one may feel a huge pile of guilt, that they brought on their own illness because they were too weak, spoke too negatively to themselves, didn't eat the perfect diet...Parents who think they brought on their child's autism cause they gave them a vaccine or fed them milk when they were growing up - there's a lot of misery out there, to go along with the goodness inherent in the idea that your mind can heal your body and the other types of ideas flying around at conferences where Deepak speaks to sold out audiences...
But the other side of it is much darker - it is where one may feel a huge pile of guilt, that they brought on their own illness because they were too weak, spoke too negatively to themselves, didn't eat the perfect diet...Parents who think they brought on their child's autism cause they gave them a vaccine or fed them milk when they were growing up - there's a lot of misery out there, to go along with the goodness inherent in the idea that your mind can heal your body and the other types of ideas flying around at conferences where Deepak speaks to sold out audiences...
Bernnie Federko
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^^Chooch, what sort of pr0ns are you uploading???
Bernnie Federko
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praktik
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praktik
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VACCINE UPDATES!!
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Once A Vaccine Skeptic, This Mom Changed Her Mind : Shots - Health News : NPR
Read Roald Dahl's Heartbreaking Letter Urging Parents To Vaccinate | IFLScience
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And yet another, after many many many, nail in the coffin for the hypothesis that vaccines cause autism:
Vaccines are not associated with autism: An evidence-based meta-analysis of case-control and cohort studies
Highlights
•There was no relationship between vaccination and autism (OR: 0.99; 95% CI: 0.92 to 1.06).
•There was no relationship between vaccination and ASD (autism spectrum disorder) (OR: 0.91; 95% CI: 0.68 to 1.20).
•There was no relationship between [autism/ASD] and MMR (OR: 0.84; 95% CI: 0.70 to 1.01).
•There was no relationship between [autism/ASD] and thimerosal (OR: 1.00; 95% CI: 0.77 to 1.31).
•There was no relationship between [autism/ASD] and mercury (Hg) (OR: 1.00; 95% CI: 0.93 to 1.07).
•Findings of this meta-analysis suggest that vaccinations are not associated with the development of autism or autism spectrum disorder.
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And why aren't people "following the money" on vaccines and the autism-vaccine link??
How the vaccine crisis was meant to make money - 1 - Brian Deer
Andrew Wakefield was not only being paid by a lawyer who was hoping to leverage Wakefield's "study" for class actions (150 british pounds an hour!) but Wakefield was involved in setting up a company to conduct bowel tests that only this company would be able to do - once their autism research started the scare people would want their kids tested, they were projecting 70 million british pounds a year across US/UK for testing...
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Once A Vaccine Skeptic, This Mom Changed Her Mind : Shots - Health News : NPR
Read Roald Dahl's Heartbreaking Letter Urging Parents To Vaccinate | IFLScience
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And yet another, after many many many, nail in the coffin for the hypothesis that vaccines cause autism:
Vaccines are not associated with autism: An evidence-based meta-analysis of case-control and cohort studies
Highlights
•There was no relationship between vaccination and autism (OR: 0.99; 95% CI: 0.92 to 1.06).
•There was no relationship between vaccination and ASD (autism spectrum disorder) (OR: 0.91; 95% CI: 0.68 to 1.20).
•There was no relationship between [autism/ASD] and MMR (OR: 0.84; 95% CI: 0.70 to 1.01).
•There was no relationship between [autism/ASD] and thimerosal (OR: 1.00; 95% CI: 0.77 to 1.31).
•There was no relationship between [autism/ASD] and mercury (Hg) (OR: 1.00; 95% CI: 0.93 to 1.07).
•Findings of this meta-analysis suggest that vaccinations are not associated with the development of autism or autism spectrum disorder.
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And why aren't people "following the money" on vaccines and the autism-vaccine link??
How the vaccine crisis was meant to make money - 1 - Brian Deer
Andrew Wakefield was not only being paid by a lawyer who was hoping to leverage Wakefield's "study" for class actions (150 british pounds an hour!) but Wakefield was involved in setting up a company to conduct bowel tests that only this company would be able to do - once their autism research started the scare people would want their kids tested, they were projecting 70 million british pounds a year across US/UK for testing...