thanks for all your replies ... i'm not actually selling it, just wanted to see what market value was. you've all been very informative. yes, you can get all of that for about $475 ... NOT INCLUDING GAMES, but if someone had the cash and didn't want to bother with the 3 weeks waiting time for the chip, modding it themselves and figuring out all the little idiosyncrasies of modding (which could take weeks if its your first time) .... renting / borrowing / downloading all the games and burning them. for some people, time is money ... i'd be willing to pay $200 to save myself 4 weeks of headache and hastle ... but thats just me.