Originally posted by Ditto Much
Fidel more or less kicked him out, twice,
and he is a hero.
I love cuba
Originally posted by OTIS
No he didn't it was for political reasons that Fidel separated himself from Che. Che desired to spark revolutions in other countries, but Fidel felt his dedication was to cuban nationalism. So when they parted ways, Fidel made sure Che wrote a letter that distanced himself from the administration of Cuba so that in case he got entangled in high profile political conflicts eslewhere, Fidel could read the statement and not be entitled to come to his rescue, or Cuba not be seen as an National accomplice in the conflict. Which is what happened when he was rumored to be stirring revolution in Bolivia. You make it sound as if Che was rejected and hated by Castro which is totally not the case.
Originally posted by JEMZ
Well I just returned home from Cuba and had many questions about Che that I needed answered. This is what I learned:
His name is Ernesto and he is actually Argentinian not Cuban (trivial but I still did not know these facts).
Che is massive, and I mean massive in Cuba. You guys joke about the Tshirts and all that crap back here... but in Cuba his face is everywhere. He is the face of the ideal Socialist in Cuba.
He is so revered because he is so unwaivering. "Che" meaning "that", actually comes from the people saying "there's that Guevara again" it is a term of endearment from the Cubans.
Lemme go off a bit because this has weighed very heavy on me since my return. Jen and I did a lot of travelling and meeting/conversation with the locals. Cubans are the most educated people I have ever spoke with. The country has a literacy rate of 100% and a suicide rate of 0%
Cubans have very little and what they do have they share equally and they are dedicated to Socialism. Cuba does not practice Stalinism, information is not repressed as much as one would think, but I truly belive after speaking with many Cubans that Cuba would die under Capiltalism... and the spirit of the people would be destroyed.
My father in law commented that Cuba is like a time warp. It is like 1959 has stood still in time there. Almost all technology pre- dates that revolution... but more importantly the attitude pre-dates 1959 also. Cubans are kind and patient. They are polite and laugh, they believe in religion and the family unit. They believe in education and community. They put safety first and they love baseball. They drive '57 Chevy's and they love strings and horns with their music.
In my wedding thread, I stated that I am humbled by my pre-desposed notions of Cubans, Cuba and their brand of Socialism. After visiting with these people I admire them so whole heartedly and feel that they without question still believe in the Revolution as victory and Che as their leader. I am sad that USA consistently tried to undermine the government of Cuba, just now there are now tighter embargos in Cuba and they cannot buy a bar of soap on the entire island... they survive though.
To make a long story long.... Che is the face of the political system Cubans adore. When I got off the plane I was greeted with a billboard that read "Socialismo o meurte", and they believe it. See it for yourself... they is no happier nation in the world than Cuba.
Originally posted by Puma
Thats exactly how I feel about it.
They own nothing and they have nothing yet they are a lot happier then anywhere else I'v ben.
enjoy it while uncle Fidel is alive couse after that it's gona be MCDonalds and Burger king on every corner..
Originally posted by Eccentric (LRG)
Regenerate, He' was a socialist doctor who travelled around helping lepers and such. He met up with fidel and other communists. Joined their "party" ...turned Gurillia.... was eventually caught and killed.
Good man though.