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Cat torture case/ruling...

Read an article in the Star yesterday (Rosie DiMano?) that detailed the images captured on the home video/school art project.

I was nearly ill and on the verge of tears after reading the completely heinous things they did to that animal before finally killing it (it screaming and crying the entire time). :(

Does anyone know when the ruling on this case is coming down? I thought it was today.

I was considering going to the trail but I would have a hard time keeping my cool.
 

Plato

TRIBE Member
werent the art students in question from ocad?? :confused:

g-zus...what am i getting myself into.

the least they could have done was boiled the cat to make some stew and fed it to the homeless
;)

p[l]a+0
 

LeoGirl

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Another sad story :(..........Normally I can't even read stories like these, but it seems there's more and more of them every day.

Cruel Reality

He was found tied up, weak, emaciated – and near death. And now a German Shepherd that was discovered abandoned in a Kingston and Lee Avenue parking lot on Thursday is on the mend – and the Humane Society believes its found the owner responsible.

That person – who still hasn’t been publicly identified – will likely be facing charges on Tuesday, and is only talking through her lawyer. The Society’s Amy White explains it was an overwhelming public response that led investigators to their suspect. Conviction on cruelty to animal charges carries a $2,000 fine, the possibility of six months in jail, and a two year prohibition on owning other animals.

Christine Deering came across the suffering 7-year-old canine, as she was out walking her own dog last week. She was worried it wouldn’t even survive the time it took her to make the phone call.

The dog appeared to have been without food for weeks on end, but is making a rapid recovery, and will be available for adoption once its treatment is complete.
 
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Klubmasta Will

TRIBE Member
have you ever noticed how ENRAGED people get when the topic of animal cruelty or animal starvation comes up? (and have you noticed how those same people will walk past homeless people without so much as a glance?)

ps. this was not directed at anyone in particular. i am simply passing on an interesting thought that i read somewhere recently.
 

LeoGirl

TRIBE Member
^^^^ah yes................but not to sound like a complete closed-minded bitch.

Homeless people have some means to change their situations.................

ANIMALS DO NOT
 

MoFo

TRIBE Member
Originally posted by Plato
werent the art students in question from ocad?? :confused:





p[l]a+0

Yup. The curator of the gallery they were planning to show it at is quite infamous actually and well-respected by the faculty. He;s the guy who puked on the Mondrian's at the MoMa.

I went to a house party with them once and they were really nice. Gave me free film.

Of course, you have to be an artsy to sort of... understand the artsies...
 
Originally posted by Klubmasta Will
have you ever noticed how ENRAGED people get when the topic of animal cruelty or animal starvation comes up? (and have you noticed how those same people will walk past homeless people without so much as a glance?)
Will come on....

They're totally different.

It would only be on par if you saw a homeless person who was being skinned alive and having his eyes gouged out, or one who had been chained to a pole for two weeks. Perhaps equating donating to a food bank would be more realistic a comparison.

As leo said, animals are dependant on their owners not to torture them.
 

Klubmasta Will

TRIBE Member
hey DIWC, i know it's not the same thing. the point is that people, for whatever reason, often care more about saving cute animals than they do about saving human beings.

leogirl - a large percentage of this city's malnourished are children. i would say that many of these children are every bit as helpless as any dog or cat.

aight, i'll take my FoodShare directors hat off now.

peace.
 
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kuba

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Will ,

people get enraged about cute animals and they pass homeless people and in both cases they do nothing about the situation. They are just merely mad about what is happening to the victim. We do not hear about homeless people suffering because we see it on a daily basis. but when we hear of an animal suffering it is more rare and hence there is a bigger uproar. if we were to help the homeless, then i would go broke giving them money. instead i "pick" a person here and there and help them out, thus doing all i can do or all im willing to do.

word
 

LoopeD

TRIBE Member
Originally posted by Klubmasta Will
hey DIWC, i know it's not the same thing. the point is that people, for whatever reason, often care more about saving cute animals than they do about saving human beings.

leogirl - a large percentage of this city's malnourished are children. i would say that many of these children are every bit as helpless as any dog or cat.

aight, i'll take my FoodShare directors hat off now.

peace.


One is the deliberate first-hand murder of a living creature. The other is apathy, towards a lifeform that is at least alive and able to speak, beg and use opposable thumbs and mental capacity to defend itself and get by. I don't get your drift here.

Oh wait, aren't you one of the people who defended the Chinese for torturing, killing and eating St. Bernards in a thread a while back? Something about respecting different cultures; that just because our Western beliefs are against animal cruelty, its OK for other cultures to do whatever they want?

Sorry if I am out of line here, but you started it..........




:)d
 

rejenerate

TRIBE Member
Originally posted by qtip
Will ,

people get enraged about cute animals and they pass homeless people and in both cases they do nothing about the situation. They are just merely mad about what is happening to the victim. We do not hear about homeless people suffering because we see it on a daily basis. but when we hear of an animal suffering it is more rare and hence there is a bigger uproar. if we were to help the homeless, then i would go broke giving them money. instead i "pick" a person here and there and help them out, thus doing all i can do or all im willing to do.

word
Sometimes this has bothered me...I know a handful of people who are rather "enthusiastic" about animal rights and sometime I feel like asking what they're doing to stop sweatshops. I love animals and would never knowingly inflict cruelty on them, but I think how we treat our fellow human beings is atrocious and not enough is being done to stop -that-.

~jen
 
Originally posted by Klubmasta Will
hey DIWC, i know it's not the same thing. the point is that people, for whatever reason, often care more about saving cute animals than they do about saving human beings.
Have you looked dollar for dollar and compared public donations for random food bank/homeless shelters/women's shelters and compared those totals to that of the TO Humane Society? (This is an honest question, I'm curious.)

I would have thought that donations (cash, or cash value) would be much higher for the shelters/food banks versus HS.

You may be talking about people being drawn to cute street kittens and petting them, versus giving an old smelly street person a hug, in which case I agree. People just don't do that.
 
Originally posted by LoopeD


Oh wait, aren't you one of the people who defended the Chinese for torturing, killing and eating St. Bernards in a thread a while back? Something about respecting different cultures; that just because our Western beliefs are against animal cruelty, its OK for other cultures to do whatever they want?

Sorry if I am out of line here, but you started it..........
You got the wrong chick, pal. I would never support eating dogs.

Anything else?
 
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geminigirl

TRIBE Member
Originally posted by LeoGirl
Another sad story :(..........Normally I can't even read stories like these, but it seems there's more and more of them every day.

Cruel Reality

You seem to be as big of an animal lover as myself!:) ..., this case really got to me too-I was so upset. Thank God for that nice lady who found the dog.... the dog looks so sweet!!

Peace
 

LoopeD

TRIBE Member
Originally posted by daddyiwantchocolate


You got the wrong chick, pal. I would never support eating dogs.

Anything else?

Actually, I was talking to Klubmasta Will. Note the quote..........;)





:)d
 

LeoGirl

TRIBE Member
Originally posted by Klubmasta Will
hey DIWC, i know it's not the same thing. the point is that people, for whatever reason, often care more about saving cute animals than they do about saving human beings.

leogirl - a large percentage of this city's malnourished are children. i would say that many of these children are every bit as helpless as any dog or cat.

aight, i'll take my FoodShare directors hat off now.

peace.
yes.......but you said homeless people, not children.....

And there are stricter laws in place that help children that are in very bad home situation & if you kill your kid, you go to jail. Whereas......if you torture and murder and animal, whether it be cat, dog, whatever the punishment for these crimes are rediculous. Gimmie a break a $2000 fine or Max. 6 months in jail AND you can take your brused and batter pet home with you. When some guy goes to jail for life for tax evasion................

I think the bottom line is that shitty things happen every day....It's picking and choosing your battles. I've chosen this one today, because I think that too many HUMAN's don't see how "quality of life" is important to all species not the the Human speicies.
 

geminigirl

TRIBE Member
Originally posted by LeoGirl
^^^^ah yes................but not to sound like a complete closed-minded bitch.

Homeless people have some means to change their situations.................

ANIMALS DO NOT

So true!!!
 
Originally posted by LoopeD


Actually, I was talking to Klubmasta Will. Note the quote..........;)

:)d
NO NO I WANNA START A FIGHT WITH YOU!!!

haha. I can't read today. I thought the second part of your post didn't jive with the first part. Sorry! LOL
 
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LoopeD

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Originally posted by LeoGirl


yes.......but you said homeless people, not children.....

And there are stricter laws in place that help children that are in very bad home situation & if you kill your kid, you go to jail. Whereas......if you torture and murder and animal, whether it be cat, dog, whatever the punishment for these crimes are rediculous. Gimmie a break a $2000 fine or Max. 6 months in jail AND you can take your brused and batter pet home with you. When some guy goes to jail for life for tax evasion................

I think the bottom line is that shitty things happen every day....It's picking and choosing your battles. I've chosen this one today, because I think that too many HUMAN's don't see how "quality of life" is important to all species not the the Human speicies.

I agree with you 110 percent. Humans are a selfish creature, far more concerned with his own proliferation than the welfare of the planet he is inhabiting or the creatures he shares it with.







:)d
 

Klubmasta Will

TRIBE Member
Originally posted by LoopeD
Oh wait, aren't you one of the people who defended the Chinese for torturing, killing and eating St. Bernards in a thread a while back? Something about respecting different cultures; that just because our Western beliefs are against animal cruelty, its OK for other cultures to do whatever they want?

Sorry if I am out of line here, but you started it..........
this is directed at ME? do you remember me saying these things or are you assuming i did because i'm chinese? (i don't recall participating in that thread.)

i DO, however, agree with the point though. many asian countries historically viewed dogs the same way western society views cows, pigs and chickens.
 

geminigirl

TRIBE Member
Originally posted by Klubmasta Will


this is directed at ME? do you remember me saying these things or are you assuming i did because i'm chinese? (i don't recall participating in that thread.)

i DO, however, agree with the point though. many asian countries historically viewed dogs the same way western society views cows, pigs and chickens.

I am a vegetarian.....no animals need to die for me to eat!!:p
 
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