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Bush Sat Silently

2canplay

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Taken from nytimes.com in an article about an agreement to let Canada bid on Iraq contracts:

"Mr. Martin said that "it actually does show that working together you can arrive at a reasonable solution." Mr. Martin then repeated his remarks in French, while Mr. Bush sat silently.
 

Ditto Much

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Originally posted by 2canplay
Taken from nytimes.com in an article about an agreement to let Canada bid on Iraq contracts:

"Mr. Martin said that "it actually does show that working together you can arrive at a reasonable solution." Mr. Martin then repeated his remarks in French, while Mr. Bush sat silently.
Like I was saying, of the two Martin is the more powerful and in the better position. There is also a brilliant little trick that Trudeau invented. If you don't want to be quoted in the American news papers or English newspappers say it in French. Chretien was a master of it, he would litterally switch languages right at there paragraph that he didn't want quoted and then switch back when it was finished.

Don't underestimate Martin, I'm not a fan of his (I'm a Chretien fan) but I don't question his abilities. He'll pull ten fast ones on Bush before he even knows it.
 

Ditto Much

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3393113.stm

US lets Canada bid for Iraq work


US President George W Bush has said Canada will now be "eligible to bid" for reconstruction projects in Iraq.
His offer to Canadian Prime Minister Paul Martin halts a controversial US policy of reserving work for those countries which backed the war.

"They want Iraq to be free. They understand the stakes," Mr Bush said after meeting Mr Martin at a summit of American leaders in Monterrey, Mexico.

But it appears France and Germany will not yet be allowed to bid for work.


Last month, the Bush administration ruled that prime contracts to rebuild Iraq would only be open to countries that had supported the invasion of the country - not including Canada and other traditional allies.


Policy reversal

It said the decision, which angered many US allies, was taken on the grounds of national security.

After this latest announcement, Canada is expected to be able to bid for Iraq contracts worth about $4.5bn.

The position of other countries which opposed the US-led war in Iraq, such as France and Germany, is unclear, although the US indicated they could be allowed to bid for future

US National Security Council spokesman Sean McCormack said: "For those countries that want to join our efforts in Iraq, circumstances can change."

The BBC's Ian Pannell, in Monterrey, says allowing Canada to bid for lucrative contracts is a major policy reversal and one designed to win back an important regional ally.

He said the two countries have grown increasingly distant over recent months, particularly over the issue of Iraq.


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Again I point out that from any perspective other than our own its obvious that the US has to make ammends to Canada and not the other way around. The US needs a strong ally and Britain just isn't anywhere near the value of Canada. Although they have a military everything else is Euro centric, Canada is there biggest ally and without her they will bankrupt 49 states.

Bush has to kiss Martins ass, its as obvious as it gets.
 

~atp~

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Originally posted by Ditto Much


Again I point out that from any perspective other than our own its obvious that the US has to make ammends to Canada and not the other way around. The US needs a strong ally and Britain just isn't anywhere near the value of Canada. Although they have a military everything else is Euro centric, Canada is there biggest ally and without her they will bankrupt 49 states.

Bush has to kiss Martins ass, its as obvious as it gets.
I think I have to agree with you. I'm distrustful of Martin (well, ok, I'm distrustful of all politicians, but moreso with Monsieur Martin) but at least Canada has leverage here...
 

Aeryanna

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I'm not much of a Martin fan (I was more of a Chretien fan) but to Martins credit I'm sure he'll handle himself with Bush quite well and will inevitably pull a few fast ones on him.

Martin 1
Bush 0
 
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416

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WAY TO GO MARTIN!

I just can't wait to get my first blood money cheque in the mail.

YAY BLOOD MONEY!
 

kodos

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Hey how does one contact the Department of Pay-offs and Kickbacks if one isn't receiving their regular cheques in the mail?

Hmm if Martin is gonna take Bush down a peg then he might win my support after all. I like this language-switching tactic, brilliant :)
 
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depraved

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Re: Re: Bush Sat Silently

Originally posted by Ditto Much
Like I was saying, of the two Martin is the more powerful and in the better position.
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He'll pull ten fast ones on Bush before he even knows it.
I call bullshit on that. On the tv yesterday, Bush sat relaxed while Martin nervously fidgeted, didn't seem to know what to do with his hands & generally came off like a pitch salesman (e.g. aluminum siding). Turn off the sound, & you'd swear he was the posterboy for flop sweat. Turn of the sound, and his delivery was nervous. Hardly the image that jibes with being a more powerful position.
 

Ditto Much

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Re: Re: Re: Bush Sat Silently

Originally posted by depraved
I call bullshit on that. On the tv yesterday, Bush sat relaxed while Martin nervously fidgeted, didn't seem to know what to do with his hands & generally came off like a pitch salesman (e.g. aluminum siding). Turn off the sound, & you'd swear he was the posterboy for flop sweat. Turn of the sound, and his delivery was nervous. Hardly the image that jibes with being a more powerful position.
Martin actually has an ugly nervous twitch. When he does debates and discussions he will always try to be behind a desk so that you can't see him fidgeting or swinging his legs. Podiums make him look real bad so in general you will see him behind the desk.


Bush really doesn't have the power that Martin has. Martin can set policy and raise it to a vote, he has a majority government and can pretty much pass any policy or law that he wants. Bush can't do a single thing without sending it to congress for butchering.
 

Dirtymatt

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Originally posted by Ditto Much
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3393113.stm

The US needs a strong ally and Britain just isn't anywhere near the value of Canada. Although they have a military everything else is Euro centric, Canada is there biggest ally and without her they will bankrupt 49 states.

Not too sure about the UK being Euro-centric, nothing has happened yet and wont until after the next general election, and they do have a lot of clout on the international scale- however, I understand that Canada's geographical proximity plays a major part, but they dont quite have the pulling power of the UK at the moment.

dirtymatt
 
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