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Boy with Asthma Dies After School Confiscates His Inhaler

ravinjunkie

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I am absolutely outraged, I've never heard of this nonsense.

How dare any school confiscate ANY child's ASTHMA inhaler??

:O

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Ontario mom urges schools to let asthmatic kids carry puffers - Ottawa - CBC News


Ontario mom urges schools to let asthmatic kids carry puffers
Ryan Gibbons, 12, died after a severe asthma attack during recess at Straffordville, Ont., school

Ontario schools should allow students with asthma to carry puffers with them in case of emergencies, says the mother of a 12-year-old boy who died when no one could get his inhaler in time because it was locked in the principal's office.

Ryan Gibbons died Oct. 9, 2012 when he suffered a severe asthma attack during recess at school in the village of Straffordville, in southwestern Ontario.



Sandra Gibbons says her son told his friends he wasn't feeling well and probably started panicking when they had to carry him to the office where the inhaler was kept.

"So as he was going to the office to get his inhaler, he kind of was having a hard time and had to be carried into the office, and by the time he got there he had blacked out," she said. "To this day I really don't know how exactly the whole day unfolded for him."
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Gibbons, 40, started a petition asking the government to force school boards to adopt standardized asthma management plans after her son's death. ((Nathan Denette/Canadian Press))

School policy was to keep the inhalers under lock and key and staff repeatedly confiscated spare inhalers from Ryan, added Gibbons.

"I received many a phone call stating Ryan had taken an inhaler to school and they found it in his bag and would like me to come pick it up because he wasn't even allowed to bring it home with him," she said. "There's supposed to be one in the office and that's the only one he can have. I didn't understand why."
Mom wants parties to introduce legislation

After her son's death, Gibbons, 40, started a petition asking the government to force school boards to adopt standardized asthma management plans, and urged all three parties to pass a private member's bill from Progressive Conservative Jeff Yurek.

"Unfortunately, I stand here today trying to get this bill -- Ryan's law -- in place so that nobody else has to feel how I feel every day, and that's missing my son."

Yurek said his bill would allow students with asthma to have a puffer in their pocket or backpack and force every school board to develop a comprehensive asthma policy.

"Provided the doctor said it's fine for them to have the puffer they will have a spare puffer somewhere in the school, probably the principal's office, but they will have (another) puffer in their pocket or in their bag, however they feel comfortable having it, but it will be on them at all times throughout the day," said Yurek.

"Hopefully we can take an important step toward ensuring a tragedy like this never happens again."
Education minister pledges support

Most school boards have some type of asthma policy, but they vary greatly in terms of scale and scope, added Yurek.

"In some schools, students are not allowed to have them outside of the principal's office, some have medical stations where teachers have pictures of students who need inhalers but still don't have it on hand, and in other schools it has to be in the teacher's desk, which doesn't help them when they go in the playground," he said.

Education Minister Liz Sandals expressed support for the idea behind Ryan's law during second reading debate in the legislature, but said there may need to be a more comprehensive bill covering other medical conditions such as anaphylaxis.

"There really does seem to be good evidence that, as soon as the child is able to manage their own medication, it's important that they have the puffer or the EpiPen on their person," said Sandals.

"Staff should know how to recognize and manage worsening symptoms and asthma attacks."
 

stir-fry

TRIBE Member
As a lifetime ashtma sufferer this article frustrated me to no end when I read it earlier. If school's feel the need to control children's inhalers, they need to find a way to make them more accessible to them and not locked up in an office down the hallway.
 

agentRC4

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My daughter is in grade 2 and she carries her epipen and puffer all day while at school and has done so since JK. This article is interesting as it was our teachers and principle who insisted she carry them on her. The school office has a set as well and our day care which is in the school has one set as well.

So my kid has 3 epipens and 3 puffers at school.
 
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basketballjones

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As a lifetime ashtma sufferer this article frustrated me to no end when I read it earlier. If school's feel the need to control children's inhalers, they need to find a way to make them more accessible to them and not locked up in an office down the hallway.
why the fuck would you need to control an inhaler???

this is fucking bonkers, seriously, kids are not allowed to carry inhalers

when the shit did this happen

nanny state bullshit
 
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stir-fry

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why the fuck would you need to control an inhaler???
Yeah, I dunno, it's blowing my mind. I knew how to take my inhaler from a very young age and I was pretty disciplined in using it correctly. However, there are some potential side-effects to abusing a albuterol/salbutamol inhaler.
 

basketballjones

TRIBE Member
Yeah, I dunno, it's blowing my mind. I knew how to take my inhaler from a very young age and I was pretty disciplined in using it correctly. However, there are some potential side-effects to abusing a albuterol/salbutamol inhaler.
you can also stab a kid with a pencil, a chair leg or bash their head off of a table

lets ban those too

anything can be used in the manner it wasnt meant for, banning it wont make it go away

if that were my kid i would go postal and yet it will be swept aside and called prudent or some other bullshit
 
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Sal De Ban

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you can also stab a kid with a pencil, a chair leg or bash their head off of a table

lets ban those too

anything can be used in the manner it wasnt meant for, banning it wont make it go away

if that were my kid i would go postal and yet it will be swept aside and called prudent or some other bullshit
exactly. it's the teacher's job to pay attention to each student in the class.
 

lobo

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why the fuck would you need to control an inhaler???

this is fucking bonkers, seriously, kids are not allowed to carry inhalers

when the shit did this happen

nanny state bullshit

I've asked some teachers and it's because it's a prescribe medication. You can't just get an inhaler without a doctor's prescription. So it ends up getting lumped in with the rest of the medication that is locked away and can only be given to the child with the doctor's and parent's consent.

Personally I think it's kinda fucked up too. I mean this is a medication similar to an epipen that has an immediate life saving need. I can understand not wanting little Billy to carry around his penicillin for his ear infection so that he overdoses but an asthma inhaler should be viewed differently. And yes I guess you could somehow abuse an inhaler too but there must be some middle ground where things can be met.

FTR, my son has started taking an inhaler to school too this year because he was doing cross country and we've found that there are those rare moments when he needs it. Technically we're not supposed to do that as well. Hoping he doesn't get caught needing to use it at school.

Lobo
 

I_bRAD

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FTR, my son has started taking an inhaler to school too this year because he was doing cross country and we've found that there are those rare moments when he needs it. Technically we're not supposed to do that as well. Hoping he doesn't get caught needing to use it at school.

Lobo
He should get an epi-pen too. Super handy when you hit the wall part way through your run
 

kuba

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lobo, tell your son to be discreet about it, and if the teachers take it from him that:

1. if they touch him you'll sue.
2. if they take it you'll sue.
3. if they talk to him you will sue.

teach him that if they so much as come within 3 feet of him you will call 911 for child abuse and sexual abuse immediately

at least, that's what i'm going to do, to counteract this kind of nonsense.

I'm kind of kidding.
 
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NemIsis

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exactly. it's the teacher's job to pay attention to each student in the class.
Thank you. I have 39 kids in 2 classes (Grade 7). Bloody little hellions they are too (but I love them).

Our kids carry their own epi-pens and inhalers. The only issue I've had is having to open a student's locker because they've left their inhaler in there and they're having an asthma attack in the gym (and then they changed the lock without telling me the new combo. Happened once and damn was I scared I couldn't get that locker open). My rule is.. carry it at all times, you never know when you may need it.

This school's policy is wrong. I don't think parents realize how important they are. If your school has a policy that is detrimental to the well-being of your child, fight it! Go to the trustee! It will be changed quickly.

As long as it isn't about banning soccer balls please...
 

derek

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and how about trusting the kid to monitor their own ailment which they do outside school all the time
 

lobo

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This school's policy is wrong. I don't think parents realize how important they are. If your school has a policy that is detrimental to the well-being of your child, fight it! Go to the trustee! It will be changed quickly.
I thought it was the school boards and not necessarily individual schools that had this kind of rule in place? So can each school have their own policy about medication?

Lobo
 
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Jeffsus

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I've probably had asthma since forever but I was diagnosed around age seven.

I was prescribed an old school inhaler. Ventolin, and you had to twist it. Oh, I could bring that to school and there was no problem.

In my case difficulties then, and still to this day, are brought on by allergies, cold air, and sometimes exercise.

When a doctor prescribes an inhaler, it is not for a principal to decide how a child's health is going to be administered. I know enough about school boards to know that surely the teacher was not at fault here but the principal, in whose desk the inhaler was locked, must have arbitrarily made up this rule. Principals are not doctors, and schools are not infirmaries.

Perhaps a case can be made for prescription drugs that need to be taken, as commonly they are, at lunch time, to be in the teachers' keeping and supervised. Why administration of drugs should be a teachers job is another debate. But it makes sense. The ADHD kid has to take his pill at lunch with food; the kid with leukemia has to take something else on a regular basis.

But inhalers are not "regular basis" meds, they're "as needed", which can happen suddenly. So let the bloody kids hold it on their person.

When I was 8 or so the doctor went to good length to teach me how to use that thing. That's the doctor's job. Not the principal!

It's just such a sad story overall that I think, and I rarely think this, that a proper lawsuit is in order.

-Jeff
 

NemIsis

TRIBE Member
I thought it was the school boards and not necessarily individual schools that had this kind of rule in place? So can each school have their own policy about medication?

Lobo
From the articles I've read it's not clear. I do think there are certain rules within certain school boards. In some cases, schools can make their own decisions, in others they have to follow certain rules.

This article seems to suggest it's up to individual schools.
MPP wants schools to adapt standard plan for managing students’ asthma attacks | Toronto Star

The bill is being introduced to encourage schools to allow students to carry their own puffers. I completely support it and think it is a bill every school should support it as well.
 
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basketballjones

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when the fuck did it become a rule to regulate a childs meds???
if a child needs an inhaler it has jack shit to do with the principal or anyone else but the child. kids are taught how to use inhalers, they might be abused but the abuse of power by school officials is even more egregious
 

Bass-Invader

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In the schools I went to, children were allowed to have their inhalers without any issue. Sounds like this is a policy problem with that particular school, or particular school board.

They should sue the pants of whatever body made that policy.
 

Lojack

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Think of the children! War on drugs! Save the children!

That's pretty much the whole point of such stupid, fatal policies.
 
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