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Zorro

TRIBE Member
Deep you almost ALWAYS seem to assume you've got it all figured it out. Myself I played baseball since tee-ball all the way up. And now coach little league. Oh and It's Sportsnet not TSN that show the Baseball games. :D



Notice the happy face ;)

Okay Vinder well Like I said I live in the Jarvis and Esplande area so if you're in the downtown area let me know will get together.
Unless you got a better spot. let me know.
 
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deep

TRIBE Member
Originally posted by Zorro
Okay I see your point about football but you still need your TEAM to particapate in some manner in order to help you break through that hole.


Yeah, because that hole is always open, and when you break through it there aren't 2-3 linebackers you might have to run over all by your lonesome.

The argument that you require a team to be able to execute your role in football is just an argument that the sport is that much more complex. That many more variables that have to be in order for play to be properly executed. Which could be argued as harder to accomplish than just one player squaring off another - more variables.

Do you know what the difference between a pop up to the catcher and a homerun is??? Millimeters.

No, I don't. Never quite grasped that concept playing representing my city/region in baseball for 10 years.

That was sarcasm, incidentally, since past experiences demonstrates that sometimes it goes over your head.
 

vinder

TRIBE Member
Originally posted by deep
I'm of the belief that until someone has had significant experience / accomplishment in either domain that it's not possible to accurately conclude what is harder of the two. It's one thing to armchair quarterback your way through the analysis of a sport, it's another thing to actually experience first hand what it's like.

Which, in effect, is not disagreeing with your point that there are many complexities people fail to appreciate about sports they criticize. And also why I said this argument is silly, because I doubt 80% of people in here have sufficient experience beyond watching TSN to be able to comment.

ok then, let's assume there is a person out there who excels at both baseball and tennis equally. #1 ranked singles player, and the best batter in baseball.

what's harder? returning a 140mph kick serve, or hitting at 95 curveball (assuming that it's possible to throw a 95 mph curveball, i dunno if it is).
 

PosTMOd

Well-Known TRIBEr
I've always found it interesting how one's body does very similar linked moves when:

1) hitting a baseball

2) hitting a tennis ball

3) throwing a football

4) hitting a golf ball

The little hip twist, and wrist spin in particular...
 
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Zorro

TRIBE Member
Originally posted by deep
Yeah, because that hole is always open, and when you break through it there aren't 2-3 linebackers you might have to run over all by your lonesome.

The argument that you require a team to be able to execute your role in football is just an argument that the sport is that much more complex. That many more variables that have to be in order for play to be properly executed. Which could be argued as harder to accomplish than just one player squaring off another - more variables.


Ah but your just furthering my Argument with this foolish notion.

Yes football is complax much like um WAR. And like in WAR nobody can do it alone. Unlike Baseball where the whole game could come down to ONE player.


Deep you should come join the burbie game then I can enjoy your sarcasim in person.

Now that Tennis to Baseball comparsion thats a good question. Wonder how to figure that out.
 

deep

TRIBE Member
Originally posted by vinder
ok then, let's assume there is a person out there who excels at both baseball and tennis equally. #1 ranked singles player, and the best batter in baseball.

what's harder? returning a 140mph kick serve, or hitting at 95 curveball (assuming that it's possible to throw a 95 mph curveball, i dunno if it is).

The fact that there isn't such a person (or if there is, there are very few of them) should suggest to people that there isn't necessarily a common denominator, a perfect translation of abilities. Which would, in turn, suggest that the two tasks cannot be readily compared, and one can't be held above the other.

As you pointed out , there are factors in tennis that make simply returning a ball not that easy. Some of those factors aren't present in baseball, or in other sports, but that doesn't necessarily mean that's conclusive evidence the circumstances under which you have to demonstrate hand eye coordination in tennis reigns supreme. Or that the circumstances under which you hit a pitch is as hard as it gets.
 
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deep

TRIBE Member
Originally posted by Zorro



Deep you should come join the burbie game then I can enjoy your sarcasim in person.

let's make it a bitchslap competition instead
 
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PosTMOd

Well-Known TRIBEr
Originally posted by PosTMOd
I've always found it interesting how one's body does very similar linked moves when:

1) hitting a baseball

2) hitting a tennis ball

3) throwing a football

4) hitting a golf ball

The little hip twist, and wrist spin in particular...

I should rather add bitchslap to the list.
 

-Mercury-

TRIBE Member
Originally posted by Zorro
Which is the hardest thing to do in any sport bar none.

yo backtracker, this was your original arguement.

i don't see anything in there about complexities or war or doing it alone or what-the-fuck-ever-else-you're-saying-now.
are you admiting that you were wrong yet?? or how much are you changing your original statement.
 
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deep

TRIBE Member
Originally posted by Zorro
But I'd win. Which takes away any notion that it would be a contest.

You ever thought about why everyone was laughing at you and your claims such as the above?
 

alexd

Administrator
Staff member
cricket is the hardest game ever - just trying to understand it takes steroids
 

deep

TRIBE Member
basically the dude with the bat defends the wickets from being knocked over by the guy with the ball, and you get a certain number of points for hitting it out to certain areas

and the level of fanaticism for that game is absolutely bonkers. there are usually multiple matches happening over the course of a day so people are constantly tuned in to some cricket game or another. it's like watching a single game for days on end.
 
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PosTMOd

Well-Known TRIBEr
Originally posted by deep
basically the dude with the bat defends the wickets from being knocked over by the guy with the ball, and you get a certain number of points for hitting it out to certain areas

That took 20 mg BID of dianabol, just to explain it in such short shrift.
 

Zorro

TRIBE Member
Originally posted by deep
You ever thought about why everyone was laughing at you and your claims such as the above?

Not sure I understand this. You don't know me, and you continue to assume that I might not be able to handle my own. Except I'm to understand that you yes YOU can. Once again you show that double standard/Tunnel Vison that you so often exhibit here on Tribe.


yo backtracker, this was your original arguement.

i don't see anything in there about complexities or war or doing it alone or what-the-fuck-ever-else-you're-saying-now.
are you admiting that you were wrong yet?? or how much are you changing your original statement

What I was saying about the football was I UNDERSTAND the points he's making but I don't agree with them.

In football you need HELP in accomplishing anything you do.

However in Baseball it's you and you alone trying to hit that splitter or that breaking ball on the outside part of the plate just after he's come in hard on your wrists with a fastball to make you think a little more about leaning over the plate.

You see if you understand the game of baseball then you know it's not about just throwing ONE pitch it's about being set-up.
It's a game of chess between the hitter and Pitcher each trying to think what is going on in the others head and then adjusting yourself accordingly.

But whatever if you don't like baseball you'll just end up coming up with more stupid excuss or reasons to argue the point.


The numbers don't lie. Just take a look at the percentages.
Hitting a baseball is the hardest thing to do.
 
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deep

TRIBE Member
Originally posted by Zorro
Once again you show that double standard/Tunnel Vison that you so often exhibit here on Tribe.

Oh for fuck's sakes you crybaby, the flak you've caught has nothing to do with Tribe's shortcomings but your own.

You completely fail to recognize that maybe your behaviour or commentary has something to do with the way people are treating you. It has nothing to do with Tribecool or whatever other bullshit explanation you got.

You overreacted to a joke, but rather than laugh it off, you flipped out. So you got laughed at. Then instead of just saying "whups", you proceeded to defend your overreaction, blaming shit on other people, criticizing their character, criticizing Tribe, criticizing anything but yourself. So you got laughed at some more. Then you busted out some completely impotent threats when it was obvious no one respected your macho bullshit. And so you got laughed at some more.

I know you're not the sharpest knife in the drawer so I'll spell it out : you brought shit on yourself. If you were half the man you feign to be, you'd just recognize this rather than crying like a bitch about how big bad tribe hurt your widdle ol' feelings for no reason at all.

As for your macho posturing, do something. I double dog dare you motherfucker. See what happens. You're the one who brought out shit about bitchslaps, not me. You're the one flipping out over shit on a message board, I've so far just laughed it off. You say you know what I look like. You've got the advantage. So put your money where your mouth is. See what happens.

Or try being a man about making a mistake instead of a whimpering little bitch blaming others for your ridiculousness. In all honesty man I've never met someone who thought they were such a hardass but got their feelings hurt so easily.

Last word's yours, I know your fragile little ego desperately needs it.

(How's that for testosterone in a steroid thread?)
 

PosTMOd

Well-Known TRIBEr
Originally posted by deep
...do something. I double dog dare you motherfucker. See what happens.

Ahahahah.... I have no idea why that is just so frikkin' funny.


P.S.: deep, does you wallet say "Bad Motherfucker" on it?
 

deep

TRIBE Member
I threw that in just cause I know how much el loco zorro loves the movie tough guys. After all he's like joe pesci and napolean and conan and terminator and donald duck all mixed into one. Except that his feelings get hurt real easy on a message board.
 

silver1

TRIBE Member
Interesting bit on steroids in wrestling from this weeks wrestling observer newsletter. (from the continuing series on the history of Pro Wrestling).

In 1991 after the big Steroid trial that got WWF in hot water and sent the doctor who supplied the roids to jail for 3 years, McMahon starting testing his guys for steroids. He announced when the first test would be well ahead of time. 21 of the 40 wrestlers on the roster failed the pre-announced test. And that's without even testing for GH or Clenbuterol (another popular body building drug).
 

butter418

TRIBE Member
Originally posted by silver1
Interesting bit on steroids in wrestling from this weeks wrestling observer newsletter. (from the continuing series on the history of Pro Wrestling).

In 1991 after the big Steroid trial that got WWF in hot water and sent the doctor who supplied the roids to jail for 3 years, McMahon starting testing his guys for steroids. He announced when the first test would be well ahead of time. 21 of the 40 wrestlers on the roster failed the pre-announced test. And that's without even testing for GH or Clenbuterol (another popular body building drug).

I don't think they have a test for GH (if you mean growth Hormone) as of yet.
 
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