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beauty pagents

SUNKIST

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i just came back from the hotdocs film festival, and saw some really good documentaries. my fave by far was this one when translated called "man-made women". to make an hour long movie short, it was the beauty pagent circuit in Venezuela, that stated basically every woman who lived there strived to be Miss Venezuela their entire lives. the topics that kept coming up included:

*little children were pressured into modeling schools at 6
*nose jobs and boob jobs were normal..because smiling made their noses ugly.
*"we smoke, so we arent hungry. when we want food, we have a cigarette!"
*fake breasts inserted in the clothing to create the illusion of bigger breasts
*one girl called home crying to her mother saying that she was hungry, tired, her feet were bleeding (from parading around in crazy tall heels) and she wanted to come home. the mothers reply was "bullshit, you stay there, and you win."

you get the idea.
so what are your thoughts about beauty pagents? is it only me who is repulsed seeing young children being pushed to become beautiful-usually by a mother living her dreams through her child? i personally think the whole beauty pagent thing is one twisted, twisted event.
 
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JayIsBored

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beauty pagents are for fat old hags who want to live vicariously through their daughters...much like fathers with sons in baseball, hockey etc...
 
I've always seen it as objectifying women more than anything else, and the way that it's become a nazi-esque training camp for younger and younger kids makes me nauseous, as it's sexualizing children (directly or indirectly, I am a firm believer in this). The fact that these kids don't know any better and figure that this is what they want to be when they grow up (but unaware that their parents are enforcing it upon them), is horrible and borders on brainwashing. The pagents aren't a whole lot better, as it focuses on turning the women into objects of beauty than actual people, but then again, you could say that about 90% of the media in general.

From the Ministry of I don't want to get off on a rant here.

Prime Minister Highsteppa
 

Kalemic

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Originally posted by JayIsBored
beauty pagents are for fat old hags who want to live vicariously through their daughters...much like fathers with sons in baseball, hockey etc...
But Jay, how come it was always my Dad forcing me into the Miss Canada pageant?
 

Plato

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for some, being miss venezuela is the only way to excell and live a better life than their parents. its sad yes.
money before happiness.

sunkist, have you see drop dead gorgeous?
:D

p[l]a+0
 
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ila

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it really depends on the situation.

from what little I know of the subject, I gather that some children are genuinely interested in entering pagents. why not let them compete then? as long as they have a healthy attitude about winning and losing, and recognise their worth as little people above and beyond their worth as an object of beauty, I don't really see that there could be a problem in letting them have fun and play dress up. not that I'm an advocate of pagents in general, just that I understand why some parents might be inclined to enter their kids in them.

however, the situation you've described is a little different. I think it's unhealthy to push children into doing things they don't want to do, and that are detrimental for their general well-being.
 

KiX

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The sickest thing ever is seeing some little girl who's got a pound of makeup slathered over her tiny innocent face.

It's so campy too.... so faux and artificial. The lessons shit like that instills is EXACTLY what girls don't need to grow up thinking and believing.

=tina=
 

SUNKIST

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Originally posted by Plato

sunkist, have you see drop dead gorgeous?
:D

p[l]a+0
ya i have. i actually commented during the film that it seemed like Drop Dead Gorgeous..some of the stuff they were saying was so insanely ridiculous, it was hard to concieve that they genuinely beleived everything they were saying.
 
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JayIsBored

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Originally posted by KiX
The sickest thing ever is seeing some little girl who's got a pound of makeup slathered over her tiny innocent face.

It's so campy too.... so faux and artificial. The lessons shit like that instills is EXACTLY what girls don't need to grow up thinking and believing.

=tina=
the feminist-o-metre is cranked to max. tonight isn't it? :)


ps how many days to go now? :D
 
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Originally posted by Kalemic


how come it was always my Dad forcing me into the Miss Canada pageant?
cuz your grampa was too old to qualify.
 

Kalemic

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Originally posted by JayIsBored


twas due to your sissy, weak, girly bone structure.
Ohhh I get it! You took my joke and then turned it around on me to become painful and hurtful as a personnal attack.

Well there mister, I'll have you know that my sissy, weak, girly bone structure was enough to win more than my fair share of pageants (good thing they don't check for pee-pees.)

You coulda been with a winner, but now you've hurt me and can never have me.
 
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KiX

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Originally posted by JayIsBored


the feminist-o-metre is cranked to max. tonight isn't it? :)


ps how many days to go now? :D
SHUT IT FUCKHOLE.

i have no idea!! i so lost count! where's the thread anyways? wanna have some fun?

=tina=
 

Kalemic

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Originally posted by Tearer


cuz your grampa was too old to qualify.
Speaking of my grampa, I was talking to him the other day. Josh, he said you never get to borrow another dress from him again, you stretched it out too much with your child bearing hips.
 

Kalemic

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Originally posted by deep


now who's the two timing slut

IT'S OVER
:eek: *GASP!*

But deepy-baby, ummm I was just taunting him. Umm yeah thats it. You know the forbidden fruit is always tempting...

I'm only, ever for you!

(well maybe you and a couple pageant judges but thats more work related than relationship)
 
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MoFo

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I AM MISS VENEZUELA! :D

Good flicks, Lorikins. I miss Hot Docs every year so this has been a nice treat.
 
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