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another woman's safety tips thread

mingster

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sometimes i hate these email cause they make me feel like i have to live in a state of fear and paranoia. but meh...it's important to be reminded of some of these things once in a while. :)


Female Safety

Tip from Tae Kwon Do:
The elbow is the strongest point on your body.
If you are close enough to use it, do!

Learned this from a tourist guide to New Orleans:
....If a robber asks for your wallet and/or purse, DO NOT HAND IT TO HIM. Toss it away from you. Chances are that he is more interested in your wallet and/or purse than you and he will go for the wallet/purse. RUN LIKE MAD IN THE OTHER DIRECTION!

..... If you are ever thrown into the trunk of a car: Kick out the back tail lights and stick your arm out the hole and start waving like crazy. The driver won't see you but everybody else will. This has saved lives.

Last night I attended a personal safety workshop, and it jolted me. It was given by an amazing man, Pat Malone, who has been a bodyguard for famous figures like Farrah Fawcett and Sylvester
Stallone. He works for the FBI and teaches police officers and Navy SEALS hand-to-hand combat. This man has seen it all, and knows a lot. He focused his teachings to us on HOW TO AVOID BEING THE VICTIM OF A VIOLENT CRIME. He gave us some statistics about how much the occurrences of random violence have escalated over the recent years, and it's terrible. Something like 99% of us will be exposed to, or become a victim of a violent crime.

Here are some of the most important points that I got out of his presentation; the three reasons women are easy targets for random acts of violence are:

1a. Lack of Awareness: swing your arms, stand straight up.

1b. Wrong Place, Wrong Time:
DON'T walk alone in an alley, or drive in a bad neighborhood at night.

2. Women have a tendency to get into their cars after shopping,
eating, working, etc., and just sit (doing their checkbook, or making a list, etc. DON'T DO THIS! The predator will be watching you, and this is the perfect opportunity for him to get in on the passenger side, put a gun to your head, and tell you where to go. AS SOON AS YOU GET INTO YOUR CAR, LOCK THE DOORS AND LEAVE.

3. A few notes about getting into your car in a parking lot, or parking garage:

a. Be aware: look around you, look into your car, at the passenger side floor, and in the back seat.

b. If you are parked next to a big van, enter your car from the passenger door. Most serial killers attack their victims by pulling them into their vans while the women are attempting to get into their cars.

c. Look at the car parked on the driver's side of your vehicle,
and the passenger side. If a male is sitting alone in the seat nearest your car, you may want to walk back into the mall, or work, and get a guard/policeman to walk you back out.
IT IS ALWAYS BETTER TO BE SAFE THAN SORRY. (And better paranoid than dead.)

..... ALWAYS take the elevator instead of the stairs. (Stairwells are horrible places to be alone and the perfect crime spot).

..... If the predator has a gun and you are not under his control, ALWAYS RUN! The predator will only hit you (a running target) 4 in 100 times; And even then, it most likely WILL NOT be a vital organ. RUN!

..... As women, we are always trying to be sympathetic: STOP IT!
It may get you raped, or killed. Ted Bundy, the serial killer, was a good-looking, well educated man, who ALWAYS played on the sympathies of unsuspecting women. He walked with a cane, or a limp, and often asked "for help" into his vehicle or with his vehicle, which is when he abducted his next victim.

Pat Malone told us the story of his daughter, who came out of the
mall and was walking to her car when she noticed 2 older ladies in front of her. Then she saw a police car come towards her with cops who said hello. She also noticed that all 8 handicap spots in the area were empty. As she neared her car she saw a man a few rows over calling to her for help. He wanted her to close his passenger side door. He was sitting in the back on the driver's side, and said he was handicapped.

He continued calling, until she turned and headed back to the mall, and then he began cursing at her. In the meantime, she wondered why he didn't ask the 2 older ladies, or the policeman for help, and why he was not parked in any of the empty handicap spots. As she got back to the mall, two male friends of hers were exiting, and as she told them the story and turned to point at the car, the man was getting out of the back seat into the front and the car sped away. DON'T GET CAUGHT IN THIS TRAP.
 

Soundstream

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Originally posted by mingster
If a robber asks for your wallet and/or purse, DO NOT HAND IT TO HIM. Toss it away from you. Chances are that he is more interested in your wallet and/or purse than you and he will go for the wallet/purse. RUN LIKE MAD IN THE OTHER DIRECTION!

..... If you are ever thrown into the trunk of a car: Kick out the back tail lights and stick your arm out the hole and start waving like crazy. The driver won't see you but everybody else will. This has saved lives.
Regarding the first point, I would take it one step further. Carry a fake wallet around and throw that one to the robber. You'll get away before he checks all the contents.

And about the trunk thing, before you go smashing lights, many cars have trunk handles on the inside so that you can open the trunk.

Cheers ... Ian :)
 

the_fornicator

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Originally posted by mingster
Tip from Tae Kwon Do:
The elbow is the strongest point on your body.
If you are close enough to use it, do!
not to shit on the thread, but whichever TKD instructor you learned the elbow thing from, should be shot.

TKD has absolutely nothing to do with the elbows... the person who told you that is incorporating either their own bullshit or techniques from another martial art.
 

mingster

TRIBE Member
Re: Re: another woman's safety tips thread

Originally posted by the_fornicator
not to shit on the thread, but whichever TKD instructor you learned the elbow thing from, should be shot.

TKD has absolutely nothing to do with the elbows... the person who told you that is incorporating either their own bullshit or techniques from another martial art.
nobody told me anything.
 

Littlest Hobo

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Re: Re: another woman's safety tips thread

Originally posted by Soundstream
And about the trunk thing, before you go smashing lights, many cars have trunk handles on the inside so that you can open the trunk.
I love that little handle, where it shows the open trunk, the 'jump' dotted lines, and the guy outside of it, running away :D . They should paint in little Mafia goons eating spaggetti or something.

Too bad you can't own handguns, as bullets are much better than a judo chop. :)
 
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the_fornicator

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sorry, reread my post. Seemed to be a bit jumpy. Didn't intend it to be :)

so... then how did you attribute the elbow with TKD? (cause you said, "tip from tae kwon do."
 

stir-fry

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Re: Re: another woman's safety tips thread

Originally posted by the_fornicator
not to shit on the thread, but whichever TKD instructor you learned the elbow thing from, should be shot.

TKD has absolutely nothing to do with the elbows... the person who told you that is incorporating either their own bullshit or techniques from another martial art.
:rolleyes:


lots of tkd elbow strikes mentioned here

http://members.tripod.com/belser_world/actions.html

and here..
http://www.thefrolic.com/kimstkd/hosinsul.html

:p


ps, i've never taken tkd, and you're an ex champ.. so i could still be wrong even though i cited references
 

mingster

TRIBE Member
Originally posted by the_fornicator
sorry, reread my post. Seemed to be a bit jumpy. Didn't intend it to be :)

so... then how did you attribute the elbow with TKD? (cause you said, "tip from tae kwon do."
it was an email forard...i guess the author got the info from some tkd instructor?

on the point: elbows might have nothing to do with tkd, but if they are in fact the strongest point on the body, it's still a good tip, right?
 

kuba

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here's a safety tip. if a guy named jake asks you out, say no and kick him in the junk.
 
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the_fornicator

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oh yeah, it's a great move/tip... but it's horrible for females. Generally, if a female is close enough to a male attacker the male can over power the female by striking her on the head/face (bear hugging her, smothering, etc). Probably won't get the chance to elbow someone but that's more in regards to experience.

I can't say whether or not it's the strongest point on the body cause I've hurt my elbow a bunch of times before (it still hurts from an injury I sustained about 8 months ago -can't put pressure on it still), but it's a move used so rarely that people don't expect it.

Stir fry: Recently people have been incorporating other techniques and whatnot to certain martial arts possibly because they lack in certain areas. Traditionally, TKD doesn't use elbows... primarily legs. So there is a huge downfall to close-combat (they don't know wtf to do when up close) so I can see how it's been incorporated more and more into TKD.
 
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pr0nstar

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When I took Tae Kwon Do briefly, like Wilson said, it was all about Jumping, Kicking and some punching, but mostly focused on the legs and kicking.

pr0nstar :D
 

jus me

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Originally posted by mingster
Learned this from a tourist guide to New Orleans:
....If a robber asks for your wallet and/or purse, DO NOT HAND IT TO HIM. Toss it away from you. Chances are that he is more interested in your wallet and/or purse than you and he will go for the wallet/purse. RUN LIKE MAD IN THE OTHER DIRECTION!
When the robber is bending over to retrieve the wallet/purse...I would start kicking them down. :p

Teaches them for trying to steal from meeeeee!
 
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Soundstream

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Another tip is to walk with your keychain clenched in your fist and have the keys sticking out between your knuckles.

If someone attacks you, just give them a couple of rakes to the eyes.

Cheers ... Ian :)
 

Stan

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According to Sandra Bullock, you should learn the SING technique:

Solar Plexus
Instep
Nose
Groin
 
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