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Alleged 1980's hash dealer to run for leadership of Ontario PC party

coleridge

TRIBE Member
For what it's worth, I think the most pressing political issue Toronto needs to rally behind is demanding a national transit strategy which Chow has advocated for in Ottawa and will make a central plank of her campaign. Tory is a man of integrity and fiscally prudent at that. He is not however, a city builder and a visionary for a city that desperately requires advocacy and activism on the national/provincial stage.
Tory not a city builde or a visionary? That's ridiculous. Listen to him talk about this city and clearly he knows what it needs.

His handling of the future of Ontario Place was pretty dead on in my opinion.
 

Spinsah

TRIBE Member
I like the leadership he's provided on the Ontario Place Revitalization Project, but make no mistake about it, that's an MTCS initiative and Tory isn't exactly shaping the plan. He's also in bed with Live Nation who are lobbying hard for extended control of a large portion of the Ontario Place land. He even got his son a job at the Live Nation office!

His work with the Toronto City Summit Alliance is commendable and through that organization he's lent some support for reveune tools to support Metrolinx's 'Big Move', but I wonder if that support would manifest itself as plank for a mayoral platform? What about support for a national transit strategy? He'd have to explicitly commit to those items for me to consider voting for him in October.
 

SneakyPete

TRIBE Member
If they're releasing all of it why did they do it a little at a time why not all of it at once in the first place? Also, is this going to jeopardize Lisi's trial?
 

alexd

Administrator
Staff member
If they're releasing all of it why did they do it a little at a time why not all of it at once in the first place?
Exactly.

To make matters even more retarded, the judge ordered it released, but it won't be released today so the Crown can consider appealing the decision.

How much is all this costing I wonder in wasted court time and money.
 

alexd

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Staff member
What does it even matter at this point. As long as it comes out at some point before October, everyone should be happy.
 

erika

TRIBE Member
I like the leadership he's provided on the Ontario Place Revitalization Project, but make no mistake about it, that's an MTCS initiative and Tory isn't exactly shaping the plan. He's also in bed with Live Nation who are lobbying hard for extended control of a large portion of the Ontario Place land. He even got his son a job at the Live Nation office!

His work with the Toronto City Summit Alliance is commendable and through that organization he's lent some support for reveune tools to support Metrolinx's 'Big Move', but I wonder if that support would manifest itself as plank for a mayoral platform? What about support for a national transit strategy? He'd have to explicitly commit to those items for me to consider voting for him in October.
He's an interesting guy at the municipal level, but has A LOT of baggage. Not sure he could pull it off; he talks a lot; not so sure about the listening side.

Superior Court has ordered the remaining censored police information on Ford released.
It's deferred to December 6 to give the Crown the opportunity to appeal.

Meanwhile, this scum finally got expelled:

Italy
 

alexd

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Staff member
Watch as the crown appeals this to the Supreme Court of Canada leading to the information being released in 2016 or thereabouts, depending.
 

R4V4G3D_SKU11S

TRIBE Member
Just curious if the ruling that the remainder of the Lisi ITO be made public was what you were intimating about yesterday?
Yes, but more so the contents.

I don't know the specifics (or at least can't confirm), but disturbing, shocking and disgusting are all words used to describe. Perhaps confirming earlier suspicions and leaks.
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R4V4G3D_SKU11S

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I'm told that the redacted information in the Lisi ITO was mostly regarding Ford specifically -- an "innocent" party -- which is why it wasn't released. It has little to do with Lisi's case. Nordheimer's judgement today acknowledged that while Ford is an innocent party (he hasn't been charged), the information in the ITO is of indisputable public interest and it supersedes protecting an innocent party from public disclosure.

There will be more incriminating information against the Mayor but nothing that hasn't been speculated already. I don't believe that it'll change any minds that haven't already been changed by the already released information. It will however reveal Ford as a liar yet again, and might spoil his plan to use the 2014 budget to go on the offensive by shifting the spotlight back on him. He'll be apologizing yet again and defending himself against fresh allegations.

What I'm particularly looking for is confirmation on the allegation that I made months ago that Ford was on tape soliciting drugs from Lisi. While it may not be enough to charge him, in the court of public opinion, he'll be found guilty.
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R4V4G3D_SKU11S

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Apparently the disgusting thing we are about to learn ISNT related to the ITO after all so I will politely decline the credit. It was apparently supposed to break yesterday but something is holding it up.

Again, my update consists of lawyers being very busy.

I wish I could squeeze more info but the only reason I got what I got was they were sure the story was about to break. He has gone tight lipped now so as not to jeapordize anything.
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Spinsah

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I wonder what it is, and what could be holding it up? Is this the sex tape?

And I have a loose hunch that this delay until Dec 7 must be to give the Crown just a bit more time to bring charges against Ford. Time will tell.
 

KickIT

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If Rob Ford doesn't get arrested soon, I'm super curious to see if he's allowed into the US when he goes on his annual vacation to Florida. Everyone knows who he is and he's openly admitted that he's used and purchased drugs in the past year. They've barred people for alot less.

Also, this is an opportune time for ROFO to be out of office. With the 2014 budget up for debate, the Fords can oppose it for political gain as opposed to selling it to the public.
 
I wonder what it is, and what could be holding it up? Is this the sex tape?

And I have a loose hunch that this delay until Dec 7 must be to give the Crown just a bit more time to bring charges against Ford. Time will tell.
I get the feeling it'll be drug related, with more situations involving unknown packages of a suspicious nature.

Although I'm sure if it's the sex tape with the escort, he'll likely have another stay at crack central unless his wife is willing to tolerate this kind of shit.
 

R4V4G3D_SKU11S

TRIBE Member
I was at a media panel today with Robyn Doolittle, Michael Cooke, Andrew Coyne, and Greg McArthur.

Cooke mentioned that the rest of the stuff in the ITO is more of the same, but takes it to "another level".
 

R4V4G3D_SKU11S

TRIBE Member
Here's a collection of things they said (via Goldsbie on Twitter):

- Cooke says that when Ford was first elected, they sent some reporters to Chicago to look at Deco's operations there. Cooke says it turned out their operations there are squeaky clean. I've (Goldsbie) found *some* stuff, though nothing significant.
- Doolittle on the video: "When you all eventually get a chance to see it, it will stop your heart -- it's something to see."
- Cooke explains the Star was considering donating money to "leaders in the Somalian-Canadian community" for *them* to retrieve the video.
- McArthur bemoans the fact that the Globe doesn't gets tips like the Star does. "No one ever comes to us with the video."
- Doolittle says that she's heard through her "sources" that Renata Ford was not a willing participant in that press conference.
- The panelists don't deny they've heard there's a video of people waving guns around a passed-out Rob Ford.
- Cooke on remaining Lisi documents: "Well, I know what's in them. And they're stunning. More of the same, plus it ratchets up one big level."
- McArthur says that journalists go after the Fords so hard because they like to lie, and journalists take that as a challenge.
 

R4V4G3D_SKU11S

TRIBE Member
If Rob Ford doesn't get arrested soon, I'm super curious to see if he's allowed into the US when he goes on his annual vacation to Florida. Everyone knows who he is and he's openly admitted that he's used and purchased drugs in the past year. They've barred people for alot less.

Also, this is an opportune time for ROFO to be out of office. With the 2014 budget up for debate, the Fords can oppose it for political gain as opposed to selling it to the public.
Ford could have trouble crossing border for Winter Classic: Lawyer | Toronto & GTA | News | Toronto Sun

TORONTO - U.S. Customs and Border Protection officers could put a snag in Mayor Rob Ford’s plan to go to the NHL Winter Classic in Michigan on Jan. 1, a Toronto-based immigration lawyer says.

In fact, they might have something to say about all of his future travel into the U.S., said Henry Chang, an immigration lawyer at Blaney McMurtry.

Chang said Ford’s televised admission he smoked crack cocaine and the subsequent media firestorm could cause serious problems for him when he tries to cross the border. Ford will need to do that to see his beloved Toronto Maple Leafs clash with the Detroit Red Wings at the University of Michigan in Ann Arbor on New Year’s Day.

“Under the law, (immigration officers) are supposed to bar, or at least ask him, because they’re now aware of it,” Chang said. “Everybody in the world knows that Rob Ford smoked crack cocaine. For you to not ask as an immigration officer is a little strange if you know he’s committed an act that should bar him.”

The United States can bar a person from entering the country for admitting to using a controlled substance to a border guard.

Ford’s televised confession is not like a criminal conviction but an admission to a border guard would be, Chang said.

Much will depend on the officer he gets on the day he drives up to the border, he said. Will that officer want to be the man or woman who barred Ford, with all the subsequent media coverage that comes with it?

“The officers may be told in advance, ‘’Look there is no formal admission. Don’t ask and let it go,’” Chang said. “Theoretically, it could happen. They don’t want to be the one to get into the papers for barring Rob Ford.”

But at some point, someone may decide they want to take a crack at Mayor Ford.

“Let’s say they don’t ask him the question this time,” Chang said. “A year from now ... a guard could say ‘I remember you ... and you admitted publicly that you smoked crack. If that’s true we can’t let you in. We’re going to question you on this. They could do it at any time. They’re supposed to do it now. If he gets in on this trip that doesn’t mean he’s home free for the rest of his life.”

U.S. Customs and Border Protection offices were closed Thursday for the Thanksgiving holiday but representatives have said in previous media reports that they will not comment on individual cases.

If Ford is barred from entry into the U.S., he will be tied up the bureaucratic red tape he so hates any time he wants to travel south. He will have to apply for a “non-immigrant waiver” which takes approximately six months and expire in five years.

“It will be a problem in the future for him,” Chang said. “Let’s say 10 years from now, let’s say he’s been barred, he wants to go to his condo in Florida, the waiver is only temporary.

Request for comment from the mayor’s office was not returned by press time.
 
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