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Afghan Men Struggle With Sexual Identity, Study Finds

Baters

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FOXNews.com - Afghan Men Struggle With Sexual Identity, Study Finds

As if U.S. troops and diplomats didn't have enough to worry about in trying to understand Afghan culture, a new report suggests an entire region in the country is coping with a sexual identity crisis.

An unclassified study from a military research unit in southern Afghanistan details how homosexual behavior is unusually common among men in the large ethnic group known as Pashtuns -- though they seem to be in complete denial about it.

The study, obtained by Fox News, found that Pashtun men commonly have sex with other men, admire other men physically, have sexual relationships with boys and shun women both socially and sexually -- yet they completely reject the label of "homosexual." The research was conducted as part of a longstanding effort to better understand Afghan culture and improve Western interaction with the local people.

The research unit, which was attached to a Marine battalion in southern Afghanistan, acknowledged that the behavior of some Afghan men has left Western forces "frequently confused."

The report details the bizarre interactions a U.S. Army medic and her colleagues had with Afghan men in the southern province of Kandahar.

In one instance, a group of local male interpreters had contracted gonorrhea anally but refused to believe they could have contracted it sexually -- "because they were not homosexuals."

Apparently, according to the report, Pashtun men interpret the Islamic prohibition on homosexuality to mean they cannot "love" another man -- but that doesn't mean they can't use men for "sexual gratification."

The group of interpreters who had contracted gonorrhea joked in the camp that they actually got the disease by "mixing green and black tea." But since they refused to heed the medics' warnings, many of them re-contracted the disease after receiving treatment.

The U.S. army medic also told members of the research unit that she and her colleagues had to explain to a local man how to get his wife pregnant.

The report said: "When it was explained to him what was necessary, he reacted with disgust and asked, 'How could one feel desire to be with a woman, who God has made unclean, when one could be with a man, who is clean? Surely this must be wrong.'"


The Pashtun populations are concentrated in the southern and eastern parts of the country. The Human Terrain Team that conducted the research is part of a military effort to learn more about local populations.

The report also detailed a disturbing practice in which older "men of status" keep young boys on hand for sexual relationships. One of the country's favorite sayings, the report said, is "women are for children, boys are for pleasure."

The report concluded that the widespread homosexual behavior stems from several factors, including the "severe segregation" of women in the society and the "prohibitive" cost of marriage.

Though U.S. troops are commonly taught in training for Afghanistan that the "effeminate characteristics" of Pashtun men are "normal" and not an indicator of homosexuality, the report said U.S. forces should not "dismiss" the unique version of homosexuality that is actually practiced in the region "out of desire to avoid western discomfort."

Otherwise, the report said, Westerners could "risk failing to comprehend an essential social force underlying Pashtun culture."
 

gak

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My friend did a couple of tours in Afghanistan. He claims to have witnessed members of the Afghan national army giving each other head a number of times. I didn't believe him at the time but maybe I do now.
 
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The Watcher

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My friend did a couple of tours in Afghanistan. He claims to have witnessed members of the Afghan national army giving each other head a number of times. I didn't believe him at the time but maybe I do now.


I've heard the same thing from a friend serving there.

He was terrified to be left alone with Afghan troops because they would make advances on him.

He witness some gay happenings, and the Afghans don't think it's gay at all because they have wives somewhere. they just want to be serviced a la I scratch your back, you scratch mine... so to speak.
 

alexd

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Staff member
I've heard the same thing from a friend serving there.

He was terrified to be left alone with Afghan troops because they would make advances on him.

He witness some gay happenings, and the Afghans don't think it's gay at all because they have wives somewhere. they just want to be serviced.

their Pride parade must be pretty explosive...
 

kaniz

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It's only gay if you
- have emotional feelings for the other person
- and/or you are the bottom

for real - college guys have used this logic before after a few beers.
 
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deevah

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i'm not gay but my dick is

how greek/roman of the them...maybe they'll come to an age of enlightenment too
 

I_bRAD

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The title should read "North Americans struggle with Afghan men's sexuality"

Being fox news, I'm surprised it wasn't "Not only are they terrorists, but they're fags too"
 
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WestsideWax

TRIBE Promoter
Hey Akbar you wear the towel on around your waist in the bathhouse, not on your head!
:O

Your "hahathat'ssofunny!" closeted bigotry just blows my mind sometimes.

"I like how it looks like he's pointing the gun at the dark-skinned guy."

:rolleyes:
 

mingster

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yeah, i am confused about the motivation for posting this 'news' article.

are we making fun of afghanis, or are we making fun of gays?
 

alexd

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Staff member
I would suspect the afgani burka clad female masses who have to stay at home, like livestock, away from men, school, books, or anything, are going it it full blast with each other as well while the husbands are making out on the battlefield.
 
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wayne kenoff

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makes sense given their fucked up views on the rights of women.

seems to me that misogynist cultures have some of the most overt displays of homoeroticism (and subsequent denial).
 

Baters

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yeah, i am confused about the motivation for posting this 'news' article.

are we making fun of afghanis, or are we making fun of gays?

perhaps neither? perhaps an eye-opener into extreme cultural differences and the impact that lack of sex education has as it relates to knowledge of STD's and "how babies are made"?
 
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