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Abu Musab Al-Zarqawi DROPPED!

SellyCat

TRIBE Member
BO! Whatever you think about what's going on in Iraq, you gotta be fucking happy this guy got his.

First Class Peice of Shit

News Agencies said:
Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, al-Qaida's leader in Iraq who led a bloody campaign of suicide bombings and kidnappings, has been killed in an air raid north of Baghdad - a major victory in the U.S.-led war in Iraq and the broader war on terror.

The U.S. military showed Thursday a picture Abu Musab al-Zarqawi with his eyes closed and spots of blood behind him after he was killed by an air strike north of Baghdad.

U.S. military spokesman Maj. Gen. William Caldwell displayed the photo during a news conference in Baghdad.

Earlier Iraq's prime minister and U.S. officials said his identity was confirmed by fingerprints and a first-hand look at his face.

Caldwell also showed a videotape of the attack in which he said F-16 fighter jets dropped two 500 pound bombs on the site. He said Iraqi police were first to arrive on the scene, followed by coalition forces.

Al-Zarqawi's body was found and moved to a secure location, where it was positively identified at 3:30 A.M. Thursday, Caldwell said, adding that the confirmation was made with scars, tatoos and fingerprints known to be al-Zarqawi's.

He also said a DNA analysis was being performed to be absolutely sure, but he expressed no doubt that the terror leader was in the house that was hit.

He also said al-Zarqawi's spiritual adviser Abdul Rahman al-Iraqi was at the site.

"We had absolutely no doubt whatsoever that Zarqawi was in the house," Caldwell said.

Zarqawi railed against Shiites
The announcement of Zarqawi's death came six days after the Jordanian-born terror leader appeared in a videotape, railing against Shiites in Iraq and saying militias are raping women and killing Sunnis and the community must fight back.

Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki said al-Zarqawi was killed along with seven aides Wednesday evening in a house 50 kilometers (30 miles) northeast of Baghdad, in the volatile province of Diyala, just east of the provincial
capital of Baqouba, al-Maliki said.

"Today, al-Zarqawi was eliminated," Al-Maliki told a news conference, drawing loud applause from reporters in the hall where he made the announcement, flanked by U.S. Ambassador Zalmay Khalilzad and U.S. General George Casey, the top American commander in Iraq.

He said the air strike was the result of intelligence reports provided to Iraqi security forces by residents in the area, and U.S. forces acted on the information.

"Those who disrupt the course of life, like al-Zarqawi, will have a tragic end," he said.

He also warned those who would follow the militant's lead that "whenever there is a new al-Zarqawi, we will kill him."

"This is a message for all those who embrace violence, killing and destruction to stop and to [retreat] before it's too late," he said. "It is an open battle with all those who incite sectarianism."

Khalilzad added "the death of Abu Musab al-Zarqawi is a huge success for Iraq and the international war on terror."

He also gave a thumbs up and said it was a good day for America.

Hunt began two weeks ago
Casey said the hunt for al-Zarqawi began in the area two weeks ago, and al-Zarqawi's body was identified by fingerprints and facial recognition.

The Jordanian-born militant, who is believed to have personally beheaded at least two American hostages, became Iraq's most wanted militant, as notorious as Osama bin Laden, to whom he swore allegiance in 2004. The United States put a $25 million bounty on al-Zarqawi, the same as bin Laden.

In the past year, al-Zarqawi had moved his campaign beyond Iraq's borders, claiming to have carried out a November 9, 2005 triple suicide bombing against hotels in Amman that killed 60 people, as well as other attacks in Jordan and even a rocket attack from Lebanon into northern Israel.

U.S. forces and their allies had come close to capturing al-Zarqawi several times since his campaign began in mid-2003.

His closest brush may have come in late 2004. Deputy Interior Ministry Major General Hussein Kamal said Iraqi security forces caught al-Zarqawi near the insurgent stronghold of Fallujah but then released him because they didn't realize who he was.

In May 2005, Web statements by his group said al-Zarqawi had been wounded in fighting with Americans and was being treated in a hospital abroad - raising speculation over a successor among his lieutenants. But days later, a statement said al-Zarqawi was fine and had returned to Iraq. There was never any independent confirmation of the reports of his wounding.

U.S. forces believe they also just missed capturing al-Zarqawi in a February 20, 2005, raid in which troops closed in on his vehicle west of Baghdad near the Euphrates River. His driver and another associate were captured and al-Zarqawi's computer was seized along with pistols and ammunition.

U.S. troops twice launched massive invasions of Fallujah, the stronghold used by al-Qaida in Iraq fighters and other insurgents west of Baghdad. An April 2004 offensive left the city still in insurgent hands, but the October 2004 assault wrested it from them. However, al-Zarqawi - if he was in the city - escaped.
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SellyCat

TRIBE Member
~atp~ said:
I actually hate Dick Cheney a lot more.
Oh go Veil somebody!

I think Pearl and Wolfenstein are much more worthy targets of ire than Cheney.

But why do I like Donald Rumsfeld? Can you answer me that?
 
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DINGER

TRIBE Member
DTD said:
I guesss this means the illegal occupation is a success now.
Yep...the world was a better place with Sadam and the people of "his" country and his neighbours were safer with him there.

I can't wait for Iran and Hammas to tag team israel's ass!!! Hopefully Iran will have a nuke and be prepared to use it. Good times in the middle-east!! Always was...always will be.
 

SellyCat

TRIBE Member
Boss Hog said:
Actually they were.
Absolutely! This can be easily proven very quickly.

You're about to see--in the next few years--some superbly trained and experience terrorists come out of Iraq and FUCK. SHIT. UP. They've gotten amazing experience at hiding their activities against a concerted intelligence and military offensive. They've learned all the best tricks now. And those are just the secretive ones. Imagine ALL those fighters who have learned how to fight--and succesfully kill--an extremely aggressive, hi-tech military.

The big message to Islamic militants from the Iraq situation is: The US really CAN be fought and beaten.

Bad fucking news for Jordan and Turkey.

And as for tag-teaming Israel, that's all hot-air. Nobody's going to attack Israel because they know it'll be suicide. An Iranian nuclear weapon is MUCH more about Pakistan, Saudi, Arabia and America than Israel.
 
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Ditto Much

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this does make him a martyr right?

Massive fuck up! captured he was worth something to the US occupational forces, dead he is of value to every radical who wants to inspire others to kill US occupational forces.

Fucking morons, if you knew he was there he should have been captured and not bombed.
 

patri©k

TRIBE Member
^^ they had him in captivity once already remember!?



also....even if they tag-teamed Israel... they'd lose.

and that goes for China AND Russia also!
 

Boss Hog

TRIBE Member
Hal-9000 said:
According to who?

axe da Kurds, yo!
The general concensus of the middle east who aren't very comfortable with a heavy American military presence. (see Civil War)
 

DINGER

TRIBE Member
I think Canadians are hilarious. They're the first to point their fingers at a situaiton and say it's wrong, but they never come up with or offer any solution to the problem.
 
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DINGER

TRIBE Member
Boss Hog said:
The general concensus of the middle east who aren't very comfortable with a heavy American military presence. (see Civil War)
You're there? I seem to remember a recent Reuters poll that had the US occupation as a long term positive for the region. No one likes the action that needs to happen to get there, but most of the region likes the long-term benefits of the regime change.
 

Boss Hog

TRIBE Member
How can we fix a situation without first identifying there's something wrong?

I suppose we could send in a bunch of meatheads in army fatigues and hope they can make it ok.
 

Hal-9000

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I'm not sure I understand what you mean by the 'general consensus of the middle east', nor what the rest of the ME has to do with the everyday struggles of Iraqi citizens.

There are Iraqis who are happy Saddam is gone and have hope, there are those who curse the U.S. presence and wish a return of the Baathists. Probably just as varied as the opinions in any country.
 

Boss Hog

TRIBE Member
DINGER said:
You're there? I seem to remember a recent Reuters poll that had the US occupation as a long term positive for the region. No one likes the action that needs to happen to get there, but most of the region likes the long-term benefits of the regime change.
Reuters polls: Saving the middle east since 1949.

(er, along with foreign militaries)
 
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SellyCat

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Boss Hog said:
The general concensus of the middle east who aren't very comfortable with a heavy American military presence. (see Civil War)
Right again.

The Saudis told the Americans: "Either you lift the sanctions and remove the military forces, or you invade Iraq, get rid of Saddam AND do all of the above." The Americans are out of Saudi Arabia now (for the most part).

Also, The US had him in captivity and let him go because they didn't realise who he was. What's that got to do with anything.

And Ditto, in captivity, he would have been an even bigger menace, because then it would have encouraged audacious kidnappings all over the place to secure his release. In coutner-terrorism doctrine, dead is better than alive for a leader because of that.

Either way, his death or capture would serve as an encouragement. At least his personal authority and charisma have been taken out of the equation, and sometimes that can have a huge impact. We don't know how effective his replacement can be.

But who the shit knows, maybe he'll be more effective. Although, the reports say that a number of his 'aides' were also killed. That can be huge deal too.

Rubbing out the dudes who do the serious legwork can do more harm than killing their boss. They could have been the ones in charge of liasing with arms dealers and even other governments of non-state groups that were supporting him.
 

DINGER

TRIBE Member
Boss Hog said:
I suppose we could send in a bunch of meatheads in army fatigues and hope they can make it ok.
I think you're right...sitting on a message board ripping an attempt by others is so much more productive. I have a friend in Iraq and i'd hardly call him a meathead.
 

Boss Hog

TRIBE Member
I have a friend in the army too!

*touches fist*

Instead of discussing things, we should just storm in eh? ++ for dramatic entrance, fuck the logic part.
 

SellyCat

TRIBE Member
DINGER said:
You're there? I seem to remember a recent Reuters poll that had the US occupation as a long term positive for the region. No one likes the action that needs to happen to get there, but most of the region likes the long-term benefits of the regime change.
Is this a joke?

A Reuters poll? You should read a book called "How To Lie With Statistics."

Hal 9000 said that now Iraqis have hope? WHAT HOPE? They're in a civil war! They're being mass murdered ON THE DAILY.

That shit is ***MUCH MUCH MUCH*** worse than under Saddam. Under his regime there was no civil war. There was no terrorism. There were no daily bombings of Mosques. There were no mass deportations of people from their homes because of their sectarian affiliation. There were no power outtages. There were no fuel shortages.

All the problems that existed under his regime STILL exist: being rounded up, imprisoned and tortures, home invasions by security forces, lack of health care and medicine.

It's a fucking failure. There is nothing positive about the US occupation of Iraq. In a decade there will be, but it will have nothing to do with America.

When the US leaves Iraq, they will send TONS of weapons and provide "air support" to any asshole officer that points a laser beam at someone's house!
 
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