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Absinthe?

fuzzy

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Everbody is always posting pics of themselves drinking this.
Now you've made me want some!!!!
I hear its illegal in Canada?
Is it Legal to import it? I've seen websites where I can order some.
How do I go about gettting some for myself?
Or enough for me and my buds for the night
Is the highest thujone content recomended will the cheaper diluted stuff still give me the propper experience?

Thanks
Richard
 

erk

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The stuff will kill you. Tried it in Germany. My friend wouldn't even have one with me. No wonder Van Gough cut his ear off... Strong yukky stuff.
 

kennyboy

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It's next to impossible to get the real stuff. What you buy in Canada or pretty much anywhere else is a cheap imitation.

Originally it was made with wormwood which they no longer use. Either way, it's nasty stuff. Definitely not for the faint of heart.
 

Boo

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Originally posted by vench
http://www.salon.com/wlust/feature/1998/04/22feature.html

an article about the sweet elixer......


vench

This is some really scary shit. I'm actually glad its not sold in the liquor store...obviously there's a reason why the gov't doesn't want the general public to get there hands on this stuff.

I'm quite sure I can and will have a few glasses though. Want it t be a controlled environment.. doesn't look like this is night ont he town schtufff :)
 
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Bumbaclat

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Originally posted by Boo
Want it t be a controlled environment.. doesn't look like this is night ont he town schtufff :)

I've had a bunch and then hit System.. no biggie.

Absinth has its charms but it's surrounded by a lot of hype. Definitely glad I got a bottle though (thanks Madnezz:)).

Bumbaclat
 

Jeffsus

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There are no psychotropic effects to absynth. The only feeling you will get from drinking it, is drunk. <seinfeld>not that there's anything wrong with that</seinfeld>. As bumbaclat mentioned, the rest is all hype.

If you are in Czech republic, you can get decent quality, inexpensive absynth. If you know someone there, you can have them send it to you for ~$20-30. To order it from Canada is very, very expensive because they know they can ripoff north american people seduced by the history of absynth. The same bottles I had here were selling on Czech websites for nearly $200US. They cost $24 in Czech.

You can buy absynth from the BC liquor board. It has 10 mg thujone/kg, but that doesn't matter, because thujone doesn't do anything anyways. "Hills" (the absynth available in BV) is high quality and well distilled absynth at a reasonable price (~$80 a bottle). It isn't terribly authentic because they have reduced the aniseed oil, to make it less stunningly licoricey tasting and more drinkable; this has the effect of making it not cloud up (louche). The Czech absynths, even though they contain more thujone, are generally cheap liquors and poorly distilled. I swear some of them are just vodka infusions of herbs; some have an off dull green colour, and none of the Czech absynths I've had have tasted quite as refined as the BC absynth, (except for King's), and few display the clouding effect. One czech absynth (name failing me... it was from pilz) tasted a lot like grass.

Anyways, if you've never had absynth before and are planning a night long session, bring some beers to back up the night, cause more likely than not, you won't want more than a glass or two.

-jM
A&D
 

tommysmalls

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Originally posted by Jeffsus
If you are in Czech republic, you can get decent quality, inexpensive absynth. If you know someone there, you can have them send it to you for ~$20-30. To order it from Canada is very, very expensive because they know they can ripoff north american people seduced by the history of absynth. The same bottles I had here were selling on Czech websites for nearly $200US. They cost $24 in Czech.

You can buy absynth from the BC liquor board. It has 10 mg thujone/kg, but that doesn't matter, because thujone doesn't do anything anyways. "Hills" (the absynth available in BV) is high quality and well distilled absynth at a reasonable price (~$80 a bottle).

jeffsus - your facts are incorrect.

1) thujone is the active ingrediant in absinthe - more thujone = more power - TRUST ME - i've tried them all (except the 100mg/l one - the absinthe king GOLD - only available from http://www.absinth.com/links/gold.html - and its $200 US) - i'll be ordering this one hopefully for my birthday this year ;)

2) the best absinthe available from czech is this one - it has 10mg/ml, and it has the wormwood still in the bottle - it costs $80 Canadian in prague, and is quite rare, and costs about $78 US on the net - a fair mark up considering its rarity.
king300.jpg


3) Hills is SHIT - you might as well drink 'absente', which is available at the LCBO, but hard to find - Repeat - Hills is piss! It is the cheapest absinthe you can by in Czech, and it costs about $20 a bottle. (and $57 US on the net)

4) There is a HUGE difference between the effect you feel from the cheap absinthe and the strong absinthe - i've tried 4 or 5 different kinds just in the past year alone.

5) Ordering online from this company is safe (no border trouble), and they are reliable - http://www.laboheme.uk.com/absinthe.htm

...i will try and post more info later, but try searching using google for +absinthe +history +effects, etc. there's a lot of useful info available.

cheers,
tommy
 

tommysmalls

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ps. i believe during the impressionist and art nouveau times the thujone content was somewhere around 20-60 mg/l .... i have dig up the address - i'll try and post it later.

cheers,
tommy
 
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sentence

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Absinthe is pretty scary stuff. I was in Prague last summer and brought a few bottles home with me. I can never have more than an once or two in a night. It does pack a unique punch though and is pretty fun once you get the taste out of your mouth. enjoy!

:eek: <<<just had a sip
 

Preroller

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I have some wormwood growing, but need some distil kit stuff, hoping my buddy can help me out. I've been reserching this for a while now, would really like to try it out.

thanks for the info tommy, ima check it out.
Dave
 

nusty

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I had some really nice stuff in Ireland two years ago, I would really doubt it if the wormwood was still in it, but the bar stamped our hand everytime we had a shot of it and after two stamps they wouldn't serve us anymore and we had to switch back to other drinks. (only allowed two shots of it a night) It also felt like they were getting ready to babysit us if anyone got out of hand (we didn't, so it was kind of insulting).

I had a few mouth fulls with Temper Tantrum a while ago right before going into a party and I must say it made the line a lot more interesting and I was already feeling good by the time we got in. :)
 
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Bumbaclat

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^^^ somebody on this board almost accidentally smoked the dried out leftovers in the bottle........ but then realized it wasn't weed. What do you think would happen? Is thujone completely soluble in alcohol?

Bumbaclat
 

statira

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I have half a bottle in my freezer right now, a friend left it here, i thought it was the nastiest tasting drink, but it made the night interesting!

ang :)
 

Temper Tantrum

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Originally posted by nusty
I had some really nice stuff in Ireland two years ago, I would really doubt it if the wormwood was still in it, but the bar stamped our hand everytime we had a shot of it and after two stamps they wouldn't serve us anymore and we had to switch back to other drinks. (only allowed two shots of it a night) It also felt like they were getting ready to babysit us if anyone got out of hand (we didn't, so it was kind of insulting).

I had a few mouth fulls with Temper Tantrum a while ago right before going into a party and I must say it made the line a lot more interesting and I was already feeling good by the time we got in. :)

You looked like you were going to be giving birth, it was great :D

Abysnth is the shiznat. Unfortunately all the stuff I had brought back from Prague has been given away/drank save for one bottle that is sadly not for me but for basic.

Absynth is fun, tastes like absolute shit though, the sugar cube is HIGHLY recommended. In Prague the stuff was like 1 buck a shot. Mind you, we also found places where 1 Litre of beer was 1 buck Canadian so ... ;)

I'm going to see if I can stop by the Czech Republic on my way back from Thailand for a week or so. I will definetly be bringing some back.

~allie~
 
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Jeffsus

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Originally posted by tommysmalls
jeffsus - your facts are incorrect.

1) thujone is the active ingrediant in absinthe - more thujone = more power - TRUST ME -

They aren't my facts.

Absinthe drinkers were reported to have experienced a double action intoxication. This intoxication combined the separate effects of alcohol and thujone. The only proven effect of thujone, however, is its toxicity to the brain

from Mann, J. in Murder, Magic, and Medicine, Oxford University Press, New York, NY, 1992, pp 105-109. Similar evidence can be found here and many other online references.

In fact, any scientific documentation will tell you that thujone is a monoterpene convulsant that is neurotoxic at effective concentrations and is not hallucinogenic at all. As well, you would be long dead from alcohol poisoning before any effective dosage of thujone could be injested, unless you are drinking the essential oil.

The only "facts" that show how thujone is psychoactive are the ones you will find on websites that sell absynth. Or from disillusioned absynth drinkers. YAY. So...

I have also tried a good cross section of Absynth of most of them taste like cheap vodka infusions. That bottle with the wormwood actually still in the liquor is obviously an infusion and I doubt worth whatever you paid. You may as well buy the herb yourself (which is easy to do), fill up a bottle of vodka with fennel and aniseed and wormwood, et voila.

-jM
A&D
 

Preroller

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I am not a scientist.
Here is what I have researched and found:

I have 5 wormwood plants growing at my house.
I would clip some of the leaves and dry them.
I would be sober and eat a couple tablespoons worth of the wormwood.
I definatley found that I felt something best described as a warm haze. My vision and perception were the things I noticed changing the most, ie I took some befoire work once and our carpets have paisley type designs, and the looked kind of layered like thoses "magic eye" pictures.....or like the carpet in Fear and Loathing at the hotel lobby, but without the snakes.
Im also kind of got a sense like I was watching myself from another perspective.....kind of hard to describe, but cool.

Never tried to smoke it, but I read that it wouldn't work that way, I think you have to ingest wormwood for the effects to work?

So ya, maybe it's just the placebo effect or whatever, but if I can placebo my way to being wasted for free, Im down with it.

Vive la fee verte!!!
Dave
 

tommysmalls

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Originally posted by Jeffsus


They aren't my facts.

your facts about the prices and qualities of absinth's is all wrong my friend...the BC one you speak of (the king), guess what?, its from czech - its the one i've posted 3 pics of..

as for the effect of wormwood/thujone, there are mixed findings at best - yes i agree its not pyschedelic in nature, but the mixture of the herbs definitely produces an effect that is unique for over-proofed liquor..

From: La Fee Verte - Absinthe House

With all the above said, quality absinthe, properly distilled, does have a different effect over and above the results of alcohol, though at up to 70%, the effects of the alcohol alone can be considerable. Absinthe's effects, despite popular conception, are not due to the wormwood (Artemisia Absinthia) alone. Absinthe's constituents consist of a very delicate balance of various herbs, most of which contribute in one way or another to its intoxicating effects. Ted Breaux once explained it that it is a push-me, pull-you effect of the various herbs, as some are of an heightening effect, and others are lowering. The effect on the individual is subjective, and can best be described as a kind of heightened clarity of mind and vision, mildly ponderous and sparkling, and warmed by the effect of the alcohol. This seems to wear off after 20 or 30 minutes, leaving one with an alcohol buzz. 2-3 glasses seems to do the trick. More than that, depending on the proof of the alcohol, will just make you very drunk.
La Fee Verte - Absinthe House
 

tommysmalls

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a history of absinthe: http://www.the-night.net/absinthe.htm

more info on thujone in absinthe: http://www.wormwood-absente.com

History with Absinthe:
Thujone in absinthe is derived from the wormwood leaves in the preparation of the liquor, Absinthe.
Absinthe was believed to enhance brain activity by expanding creativity through the imagination and acting as an aphrodisiac, leading to its popularity with artists, writers and poets.

Absinthe was banned in 1915 by many countries due to its toxicity. Because thujone has been shown to cause adverse effects, it is believed to be the compound responsible for the ban of this popular liquor, Absinthe.

Absinthe drinkers were reported to be effected by the combination of both alcohol and thujone. Absinthe is 75% alcohol. Alcohol produces a sedative effect and thujone is reported to cause hallucinations. However, thujone is only proven to cause toxicity in the brain that is similar to the active compound found in marijuana's tetrahydrocannibinol. Both chemicals have been used for centuries for medicinal purposes because of their therapeutic potentials when taken correctly, and known for adverse effects when taken in large doses over extended periods of time.

Absinthe with wormwood's thujone caused more adverse effects such as addictions, convulsions, and death than any other well-known alcoholic drink. (Read more at 'Wormwood page').
 

tommysmalls

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Originally posted by Preroller
So ya, maybe it's just the placebo effect or whatever, but if I can placebo my way to being wasted for free, Im down with it.

Vive la fee verte!!!
Dave

right on!
 
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