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[lobo]

Originally Posted by djglobalkiller

even if they remake it, they need to fuckin follow the books, religiously to explain more stuff..

There were books???

Lobo

[lobo]

Originally Posted by el presidente Highsteppa

After the Aliens Vs. Predator crossover films, I disagree. Pred's need a bit of a reboot on their street cred.

The first movie was good hence why no remake for that is necessary. It's got Arnie and his usual assortment of one liners...."What's the matter Dilon? They got you pushing to many penciiiiils?"

The second one was not that bad and the nice OMG moment was when the revealed the Alien skull inside the ship showing that both creatures existed in the same universe.

The AvP movies all sucked but is that really a reason to reboot?

Lobo

[J e l o]

Originally Posted by djglobalkiller

even if they remake it, they need to fuckin follow the books, religiously to explain more stuff..

the dark horse series?

[Rajio]

Originally Posted by djglobalkiller

even if they remake it, they need to fuckin follow the books, religiously to explain more stuff..

what? I can't tell if you're joking

[oddmyth]

Originally Posted by Zorro

Interesting that the new trailer for Wolverine has a lot of scenes that were unfinished in the leaked movie .

Not really. None of the effects were final'ed until 3 weeks ago. As you can tell by the early trailers the effects were still in a very early stage.

This happens in almost every movie with vfx. Studios are pressed to come up with halfway decent cuts for the early trailer and the trailers that are released in the weeks leading up to the movie have final'ed vfx in them.

I think this is just a case of coincidence.

[Hi i'm God]

Originally Posted by basketballjones

your confusing gambit with riptide buddy

Not even close.

from wiki

For the last of these operations, Gambit gathered together a group of mercenaries which Sinister named the Marauders. The group included the mutant Sabretooth as one of its members. Gambit was then ordered to lead the Marauders into the tunnels under New York City. He led Sabretooth, Blockbuster, Prism, and Riptide there while - unknown to Gambit - Scalphunter, Arclight, Harpoon, Malice, Scrambler, and Vertigo followed the Morlock Tommy into the tunnels. Their goal was to wipe out the Morlocks. Gambit was unable to prevent the Marauders from killing a considerable number of Morlocks, but he was able to save one, a child. Her name was Sarah, and she would grow up to be Marrow, the leader of the mutant terrorist group Gene Nation. Gambit long kept his involvement in the mission a secret from his fellow X-Men, much to their eventual displeasure.

Although I can't find pics he used metal spikes he charged while saving Storm from the shadow king after being turned into a child by Nanny and Orphan-Maker.

[Krzysiu]

Predator and Predator 2 are two timeless movies. I can honestly watch them over and over again, yelling "What's this tie bullish, CIA got you pushing too many pencils?" over and over again. It doesn't need a reboot cause of the AVP series. The Scar and Wolf predators were cheesy but the only saving graces in the crossover series.

A new predator movie would be cool but it can just be self contained. We know how he predator works within the first twenty minutes of the movie, make it happen in 1968 vietnam, how awesome would that be. Toss in a hot asian insurgent, some guys on acid, boom, summer success!

[Rajio]

Predator vs batman vs terminator

(no matter who wins, your childhood loses)

[Flashy_McFlash]

I don't see Predator as something sacred that can be ruined per se. Same with Robocop or Terminator. No matter what you do with it now, the original films still exist and it's not like Predator has a 'canon' that anyone cares about (unlike Terminator). It's like Robocop - Aronofsky can pretty much go wherever he wants with the reboot/remake but that first Robo movie will still be buckets of amazing.

A new film in that world, with those characters, helmed by a competent director with a decent budget? Why not? Your childhood doesn't lose. If it sucks, go back and watch the originals.

That said, I think GI Joe is going to break my heart.

[Krzysiu]

hot asian insurgent.

[Klubmasta Will]

i think rodriguez could easily make a new PREDATOR movie that blows all the previous movies away.

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i watched the remaining episodes of the WOLVERINE AND THE X-MEN cartoon and was very impressed. i like how they handled phoenix in the storyline and tied her to the 'days of future past'-type story.

the teaser for next season - with all the citizens chanting "en sabah! en sabah!" (for apocapypse a.k.a. en sabah nur) - was awesome, as was seeing a long-haired cyclops as one of his henchmen.

i enjoy the 'gimmick' of having present and future storylines going on simultaneously.

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i'll be watching the WOLVERINE movie on saturday. still hoping to enjoy it, which might be more possible as my expectations are low.

[Zorro]

Originally Posted by Rajio

Joker vs Batman vs Predator vs Alien

Fixed

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOZVp9NFhQE


As far as coincidence about the newest Wolverine trailer it could just be that, Or it could be done on purpose to pull those who watched the bootleg download back to the theater by revealing what some of the unfinished scenes look like. And the unfinished scenes from the bootleg far out number those scenes that were finished in this last trailer and first since the leak.

[el presidente Highsteppa]

Originally Posted by lobo

The first movie was good hence why no remake for that is necessary. It's got Arnie and his usual assortment of one liners...."What's the matter Dilon? They got you pushing to many penciiiiils?"

The second one was not that bad and the nice OMG moment was when the revealed the Alien skull inside the ship showing that both creatures existed in the same universe.

The AvP movies all sucked but is that really a reason to reboot?

Lobo

They don't need to remake the first, and I really doubt Rodriguez is going to attempt it - I get the sense he's just rethinking it a bit, sort of like the new Friday The 13th movies. The casting of Schwazenegger, Ventura, Duke et al really made the first movie.

But seriously, the two Alien vs. Predator movies sucked balls, and you're only as good as your last film. The Predator franchise hasn't delivered anything nearly as good as it's first film. I mean, seriously, one in the second film got beat by fucking Murtagh?

[Colm]

Predator 2 blew because even the guys who made it didn't know what it was. 1 part sci-fi thriller, 2 parts gritty cop boiler, 0.5's 90s dystopia schmuckfest = Danny Glover shimming down poles and Gary Busey wearing loose polished pleather. A lot like the fourth Alien flim actually.

The first Predator success was guaranteed by a simple story and a mythically good cast, for an action movie at least. Whatever questions were raised were suitably answered by the time Dutch had covered his body in special Amazon mud, ie 'Why is this thing killing everyone? Because he's an alien hunter'.

[basketballjones]

Originally Posted by Hi i'm God

Not even close.

from wiki




Although I can't find pics he used metal spikes he charged while saving Storm from the shadow king after being turned into a child by Nanny and Orphan-Maker.

i read the whole mutant massacre and have the comics somewhere, i dont ever remember gambit being in it in the least
unless he was in some other comic it branched onto like the power pack or someshit, cause he wasnt in any of the xmen ones

and i loved when blockbuster and harpon destroyed angels wings, that guy sucked until he became death

[Eclectic]

Originally Posted by basketballjones

i read the whole mutant massacre and have the comics somewhere, i dont ever remember gambit being in it in the least

I think it was a retcon...

[basketballjones]

retcon?

[lobo]

It's basically a new story line which explains or changes a previous event or attaches a new significance to it.

So, Gambit was never shown in the original Mutant Massacre books/stories back then. Later on, they decided that they were going to say that he was *actually* involved and created a sidestory about his involvement.

Lobo

[basketballjones]

oh...creative writing...LoL

riptide was a character that was actually there, and he spun around like a tornado and hurled darts and ninja stars and shit, it was what fucked up Colossus

so that story is basically shit since it didnt happen, and Scalphunter was def the leader of the maruaders b4 they decided to invent a back story for gambit

[Flashy_McFlash]

Originally Posted by el presidente Highsteppa

They don't need to remake the first, and I really doubt Rodriguez is going to attempt it - I get the sense he's just rethinking it a bit, sort of like the new Friday The 13th movies. The casting of Schwazenegger, Ventura, Duke et al really made the first movie.

But seriously, the two Alien vs. Predator movies sucked balls, and you're only as good as your last film. The Predator franchise hasn't delivered anything nearly as good as it's first film.

Franchises come back after bad entries all the time though. Every other Star Trek has been ball-washingly horrible (Final Frontier, Generations, Insurrection), Batman's got one of the worst movies in history IMO (Batman and Robin), Terminator 3 couldn't possibly have been worse, etc. All of them produced astounding films afterwards.

Rodriguez does gory action really well. What more could you ask for?

[el presidente Highsteppa]

Originally Posted by Flashy_McFlash

Franchises come back after bad entries all the time though. Every other Star Trek has been ball-washingly horrible (Final Frontier, Generations, Insurrection), Batman's got one of the worst movies in history IMO (Batman and Robin), Terminator 3 couldn't possibly have been worse, etc. All of them produced astounding films afterwards.

If they make money and/or a built in audience, sure. The first Star Trek movie was a critical bomb and pretty much did well since Star Wars restarted the whole Sci Fi genre back in 1977 - Star Trek was an easy choice. But you're not seeing a whole lot of people demanding any more sequels to movies that did well in the theatres in their debuts like Sam Raimi's Darkman or Universal Soldier (although there is a new one with Dolph and Van Damme now in the works - whether it makes it to theatres is another story entirely). It kind of depends on the franchise, and even though Terminator 3 was garbage, it made an obscene amount of money worldwide just for having Ah-nuld in it.

Rodriguez does gory action really well. What more could you ask for?

Exactly. He's a good choice for the director's chair, just so long as he keeps things on the more straight faced adult side of things like he did with Sin City (keeps the emphasis on action). I don't think the John Carpenter vibe that was Planet Terror, or the teen horror vibe of The Faculty would work too well with this.

[Eclectic]

http://bit.ly/95sfl

First look at Iron Man 2!

[oddmyth]

Saw a private screening of Wolverine last night. Its not half as bad as the fanboys make it out to be.

The end sequence with Deadpool is awesome.

I'm still miffed about the bone claws. I think they could have pulled off everything up to Weapon X's creation without them, but it wasn't that offputting.

Apparently there are several cut scenes at the end of the movie. But only one per theatre.

[Flashy_McFlash]

The end sequence was "awesome"? Really?

[oddmyth]

Originally Posted by Flashy_McFlash

The end sequence was "awesome"? Really?

I have no idea what you saw in the workprint for the end sequence, but considering the entire thing is CG I doubt it was in any way finished or even finalized in what you saw.

Well considering that the bulk of the 3 mile island sequence was CG and that even the shots we were involved in weren't finalized until the last week of vfx work. I'm pretty sure what you saw in the workprint sucked ass in comparison to what is on screen.