Bad Lieutenant = PWNAGE!

synchronizator · 11-20-2009, 10:10 PM

Saw this tonight by my lonesome amidst the insanity and ridiculousness of a so-called retard movie I'll never pay to see. Tee Hee!

Honestly, Cage has redeemed himself. Herzog gave him some serious shit to work with and he PWNED it. I would not be surprised if Oscar comes a knocking for this performance. He was unbelievable, a total douchebag (which he's always the best at) and so burned with drugs it makes for a very entertaining and thought provoking must-see.

I'll let a few people say things about it first before going into one of the most unreal scenes I've ever witness in a movie (and when you see the movie, you'll know exactly what scene I'm talking about, cause it was all kinds of wrong).

I'm giving it five stars! It really is THAT good. Go see it! Screw New Moon!

Oh yeah, and Xhibit is awesome in the flick too, same with Val Kilmer. Eva Mendes is HOT.

ndrwrld · 11-20-2009, 10:13 PM

this is the first movie in a while that i want to see real bad.
Cage is iffy at best in most of his movies, but i hear he slays small dogs in half in this one.

synchronizator · 11-20-2009, 10:17 PM

Dude, he slays small children in it. After all the shite he's put out (I haven't seen him in anything good since Lord of War, in which again, he plays a douchebag, and he's really good at playing fucked up characters like that) I had completely given up. But this? Combination of Herzog, Cage, and a great supporting cast (including a BRILLIANT performance by Jennifer Coolidge as an alcoholic), equals some awesome viewing. Lol moments involved too.

ndrwrld · 11-20-2009, 10:18 PM

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0268126/

synchronizator · 11-20-2009, 10:19 PM

Adaptation was before Lord of War.

Polymorph · 11-20-2009, 10:19 PM

I think it's really neat that when former 'A' list actors like nicolas cage and val kilmer fall from grace and become 'c' list actors, they turn to the Germans and Swedes for work. Like Nicole Kidman did in "Dogville".

synchronizator · 11-20-2009, 10:22 PM

Hey man, it works if you work it. It'll pay off for them, more-so Cage though.

groovespinna · 11-20-2009, 10:23 PM

he's been slaying his career for eons.
I liked Matchstick Men a lot, but I think Im the only one.
Ill check this out.

kirstenmeows · 11-20-2009, 10:24 PM

Cage is one of those actors that simply give me the heebie jeebies. I cannot watch him.

torontobarfly · 11-20-2009, 10:32 PM

Raising Arizona - classic

WestsideWax · 11-20-2009, 11:25 PM

Family Man was a good watch (Tea Leoni = rowwwr).

acheron · 11-20-2009, 11:29 PM

ok so I'm going to see this anyway 'cuz I like Cage when he's at his quirkiest. But does this performance top Harvey Keitel's in the first Bad Lieutenant?

WestsideWax · 11-20-2009, 11:35 PM

"Hollywood - we ran out of ideas ten years ago!"

groovespinna · 11-20-2009, 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by WestsideWax

Family Man was a good watch (Tea Leoni = rowwwr).

oooh yes. I love when his character is looking at his other self's clothing.
'well this is just.... subpar"
I say that often. I need new shit.

gollum · 11-21-2009, 01:49 AM

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Originally Posted by kirstenmeows

Cage is one of those actors that simply give me the heebie jeebies. I cannot watch him.

I would rather have a a broken glass enema than have to watch a film with nicholas cage in it, although I really want to see wicker man.. That might be worth it..

He beats up girls and is attacked by bees!!!

basilisk · 11-21-2009, 01:50 AM

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Originally Posted by acheron

ok so I'm going to see this anyway 'cuz I like Cage when he's at his quirkiest. But does this performance top Harvey Keitel's in the first Bad Lieutenant?

Apparently the films are only tenuously linked.

Ran across some classic Herzog in this Eye review:
Bad Lieutenant: Port of Call New Orleans

“The crime story is uninteresting. It is a marginal event in the film. It is more about an attitude of evil — or the bliss of evil, as I call it.”

Dude cracks me up. I highly recommend seeing Burden Of Dreams (1982 documentary on the making of Fitzcarraldo) for more of this stuff... jeez, it really brings back all that stuff about the "harmony of collective murder" when he speaks about the jungle:

"Kinski always says it's full of erotic elements. I don't see it so much erotic. I see it more full of obscenity. It's just - Nature here is vile and base. I wouldn't see anything erotical here. I would see fornication and asphyxiation and choking and fighting for survival and... growing and... just rotting away. Of course, there's a lot of misery. But it is the same misery that is all around us. The trees here are in misery, and the birds are in misery. I don't think they - they sing. They just screech in pain. It's an unfinished country. It's still prehistorical. The only thing that is lacking is - is the dinosaurs here. It's like a curse weighing on an entire landscape. And whoever... goes too deep into this has his share of this curse. So we are cursed with what we are doing here. It's a land that God, if he exists has - has created in anger. It's the only land where - where creation is unfinished yet. Taking a close look at - at what's around us there - there is some sort of a harmony. It is the harmony of... overwhelming and collective murder. And we in comparison to the articulate vileness and baseness and obscenity of all this jungle - Uh, we in comparison to that enormous articulation - we only sound and look like badly pronounced and half-finished sentences out of a stupid suburban... novel... a cheap novel. We have to become humble in front of this overwhelming misery and overwhelming fornication... overwhelming growth and overwhelming lack of order. Even the - the stars up here in the - in the sky look like a mess. There is no harmony in the universe. We have to get acquainted to this idea that there is no real harmony as we have conceived it. But when I say this, I say this all full of admiration for the jungle. It is not that I hate it, I love it. I love it very much. But I love it against my better judgment."

Boss Hog · 11-21-2009, 02:01 AM

Hey I saw Precious last night and it made me think of Synchro.

tripleup · 11-21-2009, 02:03 AM

Nothing will beat his work as the voice of Speckles in G-Force.

synchronizator · 11-21-2009, 02:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Boss Hog

Hey I saw Precious last night and it made me think of Synchro.

awww thanks boss! i can totally relate to that movie for sure. cause i'm a 15 year old overweight african american from the hood in the late 80's with a bunch of childrens and mo'nique for a mama. dang you got me straight on!

Boss Hog · 11-21-2009, 08:50 AM

nah it was just the stupid part

Flashy_McFlash · 11-21-2009, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by acheron

ok so I'm going to see this anyway 'cuz I like Cage when he's at his quirkiest. But does this performance top Harvey Keitel's in the first Bad Lieutenant?

This movie has nothing to do with the original Bad Lieutenant. There was some politicking on Herzog's part because the producer bought the rights to the first and wanted to start a franchise, but Herzog never saw the original. Don't compare one to the other. I mean, the movie is literally about a bad lieutenant, but the comparison ends there.

This movie, however, was one of the best things I saw at TIFF this year. I actually saw it twice. Cage is one of my least favourite actors but this (maybe along with Adaptation) is possibly the best thing he's ever done. Apparently Herzog told him on set to 'ignore all of your acting instincts and do the opposite', and it really shows. It actually reminded me of Lynch at times.

Great film. I'll see it for a third time in theatres.

"Shoot him again - I can see his soul dancing"

Flashy_McFlash · 11-21-2009, 10:28 AM

I wouldn't say that Cage has 'redeemed himself' though. He still needs to be babied by a director with a singular vision like Herzog.

Polymorph · 11-21-2009, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by synchronizator

awww thanks boss! i can totally relate to that movie for sure. cause i'm a 15 year old overweight african american from the hood in the late 80's with a bunch of childrens and mo'nique for a mama. dang you got me straight on!

y'know it's been awhile since you posted some cleavage shots

synchronizator · 11-21-2009, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Polymorph

y'know it's been awhile since you posted some cleavage shots

wow. that is just creepy dude.

gsnuff · 11-21-2009, 06:54 PM

I'm eager to see this. Nicholas Cage is really working hard to get out of debt.

11-20-2009, 10:10 PM	#1
synchronizator TRIBE Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: in your dreams. Posts: 6,863	Bad Lieutenant = PWNAGE! Saw this tonight by my lonesome amidst the insanity and ridiculousness of a so-called retard movie I'll never pay to see. Tee Hee! Honestly, Cage has redeemed himself. Herzog gave him some serious shit to work with and he PWNED it. I would not be surprised if Oscar comes a knocking for this performance. He was unbelievable, a total douchebag (which he's always the best at) and so burned with drugs it makes for a very entertaining and thought provoking must-see. I'll let a few people say things about it first before going into one of the most unreal scenes I've ever witness in a movie (and when you see the movie, you'll know exactly what scene I'm talking about, cause it was all kinds of wrong). I'm giving it five stars! It really is THAT good. Go see it! Screw New Moon! Oh yeah, and Xhibit is awesome in the flick too, same with Val Kilmer. Eva Mendes is HOT.

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11-20-2009, 10:13 PM	#2
ndrwrld TRIBE Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: inside each of your minds Posts: 13,025	this is the first movie in a while that i want to see real bad. Cage is iffy at best in most of his movies, but i hear he slays small dogs in half in this one.

11-20-2009, 10:17 PM	#3
synchronizator TRIBE Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: in your dreams. Posts: 6,863	Dude, he slays small children in it. After all the shite he's put out (I haven't seen him in anything good since Lord of War, in which again, he plays a douchebag, and he's really good at playing fucked up characters like that) I had completely given up. But this? Combination of Herzog, Cage, and a great supporting cast (including a BRILLIANT performance by Jennifer Coolidge as an alcoholic), equals some awesome viewing. Lol moments involved too.

11-20-2009, 10:18 PM	#4
ndrwrld TRIBE Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: inside each of your minds Posts: 13,025	http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0268126/

11-20-2009, 10:19 PM	#5
synchronizator TRIBE Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: in your dreams. Posts: 6,863	Adaptation was before Lord of War.

11-20-2009, 10:19 PM	#6
Polymorph TRIBE Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Vacant/not vacant Posts: 3,774	I think it's really neat that when former 'A' list actors like nicolas cage and val kilmer fall from grace and become 'c' list actors, they turn to the Germans and Swedes for work. Like Nicole Kidman did in "Dogville".

11-20-2009, 10:22 PM	#7
synchronizator TRIBE Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: in your dreams. Posts: 6,863	Hey man, it works if you work it. It'll pay off for them, more-so Cage though.

11-20-2009, 10:23 PM	#8
groovespinna TRIBE Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: unofficial TRIBE real estate rep. buy/sell something. Posts: 13,549	he's been slaying his career for eons. I liked Matchstick Men a lot, but I think Im the only one. Ill check this out.

11-20-2009, 10:24 PM	#9
kirstenmeows TRIBE Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: making my way through the ether.. Posts: 3,922	Cage is one of those actors that simply give me the heebie jeebies. I cannot watch him.

11-20-2009, 10:32 PM	#10
torontobarfly Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Shady Acres Retirement Home Posts: 1,989	Raising Arizona - classic

11-20-2009, 11:25 PM	#11
WestsideWax TRIBE Promoter Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: pinin' for the fjords Posts: 1,413	Family Man was a good watch (Tea Leoni = rowwwr).

11-20-2009, 11:29 PM	#12
acheron TRIBE Member Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Aisle 7 Posts: 18,253	ok so I'm going to see this anyway 'cuz I like Cage when he's at his quirkiest. But does this performance top Harvey Keitel's in the first Bad Lieutenant?

11-20-2009, 11:35 PM	#13
WestsideWax TRIBE Promoter Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: pinin' for the fjords Posts: 1,413	"Hollywood - we ran out of ideas ten years ago!"

11-21-2009, 02:01 AM	#17
Boss Hog Member Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: applying for the high school get-along gang Posts: 51,269	Hey I saw Precious last night and it made me think of Synchro.

11-21-2009, 02:03 AM	#18
tripleup TRIBE Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 1,152	Nothing will beat his work as the voice of Speckles in G-Force.

11-21-2009, 08:50 AM	#20
Boss Hog Member Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: applying for the high school get-along gang Posts: 51,269	nah it was just the stupid part

11-21-2009, 10:28 AM	#22
Flashy_McFlash Member Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 51,857	I wouldn't say that Cage has 'redeemed himself' though. He still needs to be babied by a director with a singular vision like Herzog.

11-21-2009, 06:54 PM	#25
gsnuff Member Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: toronto Posts: 6,752	I'm eager to see this. Nicholas Cage is really working hard to get out of debt.