Critical Massholes

Rataxès · 09-29-2006, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by lucky1

i mentioned i go the wrong way occasionally on side streets when the one way switches and I wasn't epexting it and all of a sudden i'm a she devil on a bike who is threatening the safety of all the drivers who may happen to drive down the street at the same time.. (FWIW usually no one is hardly ever driving on the side streets, which is the reason I ride my bike on them)

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Originally Posted by lucky1

I was hit by a car and ended up on the hood with my face against the windshield when I was riding my bike (in my correct lane, wearing a helmet,) by driver who darted the wrong way out from an alley and tried to speed across the road into the next ally without looking.

Looks like the Karma Police caught up to you.

Rude1_247 · 09-29-2006, 03:50 PM

dammit, AGAIN with the "espescially".

KiFe · 09-29-2006, 03:50 PM

ass pelt ass alley.

Rude1_247 · 09-29-2006, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by johnc

How much do they pay you to argue to Tribe?

I don't question it, I just quietly file my bank statements and don't cause any trouble.

I_bRAD · 09-29-2006, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Rude1_247

It's not akin to a parade or some other civic march as those are supported appropriately by local law enforcement which ensure the safety of both the parade goers as well as the local traffic.

On the few occasions where we've had a police escort... they essentially used the same traffic management technique that we use on our own accord, and that is to stay together as a group and have people directing traffic at intersections.

lucky1 · 09-29-2006, 04:21 PM

My mom thinks i'm cool......

Skipper · 09-29-2006, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by I_bRAD

You and Sarah should come out tonight!

I don't particularly feel like running red lights on my bike the night before my lsat...

Everything I've been told about CM in an effort to get me to come is exactly what makes me stay away from it. I am happy to quietly obey cycle laws and ride my way around town when I need to. I do not need to use my bike to make a statement.

I firmly believe that critical mass is a futile attempt to raise positive awareness for cyclists in this city.

I_bRAD · 09-29-2006, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Skipper

I firmly believe that critical mass is a futile attempt to raise positive awareness for cyclists in this city.

I think your beliefs would be more valid if they were based on experience rather than heresay!

basketballjones · 09-29-2006, 04:47 PM

^^dude, give it up

we get it, you guys are bike nazi's who like to scoff at the law and piss off heathen motorists....

Skipper · 09-29-2006, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by I_bRAD

I think your beliefs would be more valid if they were based on experience rather than heresay!

Why do I need to experience something that doesn't appeal to me at all? So I can be permitted to post my opinion in this thread?

KiFe · 09-29-2006, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Skipper

Why do I want to experience something that doesn't appeal to me at all?

heroin is awesome wikkid.. you can't say you don't want to try it until you try it.. shit.. have an open mind skip!

Skipper · 09-29-2006, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Skipper

I firmly believe that critical mass is a futile attempt to raise positive awareness for cyclists in this city.

Furthermore, I don't believe participating in the event would allow me to better determine whether it IS raising positive awareness. To understand that, you have to actually be outside of the event itself...

I_bRAD · 09-29-2006, 04:57 PM

You could just come 'cause it's fun and I'll be there!

I wanna see your new bike!

Skipper · 09-29-2006, 04:58 PM

Brad, honestly the thought of riding en masse with a bunch of militant cyclists sounds anything but fun to me.

I'll send you a picture of it.

I_bRAD · 09-29-2006, 04:59 PM

You've got the wrong idea!

What about riding en masse with a bunch of stoned hippies?

Whatever though... I'm off. wave when we go by at least!

Skipper · 09-29-2006, 05:00 PM

Mark and I are going to run out in the middle of the intersection and wave.

erikwh · 09-29-2006, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Rude1_247

I agree, I would love to see more bicycle friendly routes in this city. I depend on my bicycle to get around quite a fair bit and don't enjoy travelling on congested roads. That being said, I don't think CM serves that purpose at all. Nor do any of the arguments for preferential treatment in this thread so far.

so then how are you part of the solution? sorry I've skimmed the thread, but have you ever been to one of the rides? I didn't like everyone's behaviour, but I still went with my PLUR because it seemed like the best way to spread the word. During the rides I talked to many supportive folks on the sidewalks and also some in cars (yes in addition to those who were angy).

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It's not akin to a parade or some other civic march as those are supported appropriately by local law enforcement which ensure the safety of both the parade goers as well as the local traffic. It's akin to thinking that biking in a big group is cool and anti-establishment and asking for people to admire you for being different.... collectively. There are plenty of ways to make the CM something safer that have already been suggested (such as a greater number of smaller groups), but that doesn't meet the "HEY LOOK AT US BEING ALL REBELLIOUS AND SHIT" criteria.

Well again mabye you should go. For the most part it is just average people riding their bikes who are supportive of the cause. As for safety, who's safety are you concerned with - that of the people in cars? The ride is deliberately slow. You sound like an old man mouthing off about rap music or marijuana.

StreetDreams · 09-29-2006, 05:22 PM

Im organizing an event where I get a bunch of SUV drivers together and we drive around downtown looking for cyclists to run over and then pour gasoline all over them.

PosTMOd · 09-29-2006, 05:26 PM

I'm organizing an event where we get a bunch of m-m-m-monster trucks and drive around running over SUVs.

StreetDreams · 09-29-2006, 05:28 PM

shit

PosTMOd · 09-29-2006, 05:31 PM

Last summer, Caribana weekend...

Jeffsus · 09-30-2006, 07:09 AM

Hipsters? Toronto?

There are hipsters in Williamsburg, that's it. Toronto of course has plenty of underemployed, but it's a terrible faux pas to think of them as "hipsters", in the original sense of the word.

Also, with so many trees, a lake, and only two (or 3 now?) subway lines, it makes me shudder to think that there are people who consider Toronto not only urbane but also populated with 'hipsters'. It's a nasty shame.

When you fly over 'Toronto', you can see clear from hamilton to lake simcoe. The vast majority of it is trees or lake. Toronto has such a good thing going on with the (albeit cliched) "liveable city" that I hate to see them (miserably and inaccurately) aspiring to a pseudo-urbanity. Appreciate what you got folks!

-jM
A&D

kyfe · 09-30-2006, 07:52 AM

cyclists always! disobey the rules of the road be it someone out getting exercise or a courier. I've seen many cyclists put themselves in harms way only to yell at the driver, even though they are clearly wrong

cyclists get no sympathy from me, they are the nucleus of alot of road rage. If I saw this group running a red against me. I'd mow those hippy bitches down

Jeffsus · 09-30-2006, 07:57 AM

The funny thing is, when you hit a cyclist, they break their leg but you can wash the blood off your fender. By "fender", I mean the sort of chromed ditty adorning a nice pink chevy convertible from the foul year of our lord 1971.

-jM
A&D

NXUS12 · 09-30-2006, 08:51 AM

I think road rage is an unfortunate side effect of traffic congestion that effect drivers and cyclist alike. Cyclist less so because by ignoring the rules of the road they can avoid a lot of said congestion. This is just IMHO based on my observations over the last 15 to 20 years living in the city. People are just becoming more and more impatient and less tolerant of there fellow man. All we can do is lead by example and not be a dick on a bike or in a car. Ever notice how when you do something nice for a stranger you often see them do something for someone else almost immediately after. It is pretty cool and if enough people start being tolerant and nice to others this chain reaction is bound to hit “critical mass”

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09-29-2006, 03:50 PM	#202
Rude1_247 Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: logging off. Posts: 24,196	dammit, AGAIN with the "espescially".

09-29-2006, 03:50 PM	#203
KiFe TRIBE Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 18,617	ass pelt ass alley.

09-29-2006, 04:21 PM	#206
lucky1 TRIBE Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: between a rock and a hard place Posts: 12,307	My mom thinks i'm cool......

09-29-2006, 04:47 PM	#209
basketballjones TRIBE Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: brannigans law is like brannigans love.....hard and fast Posts: 20,692	^^dude, give it up we get it, you guys are bike nazi's who like to scoff at the law and piss off heathen motorists....

09-29-2006, 04:57 PM	#213
I_bRAD TRIBE Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Come for the roti, stay for the riot. Posts: 10,778	You could just come 'cause it's fun and I'll be there! I wanna see your new bike!

09-29-2006, 04:58 PM	#214
Skipper Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: in transit Posts: 38,581	Brad, honestly the thought of riding en masse with a bunch of militant cyclists sounds anything but fun to me. I'll send you a picture of it.

09-29-2006, 04:59 PM	#215
I_bRAD TRIBE Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Come for the roti, stay for the riot. Posts: 10,778	You've got the wrong idea! What about riding en masse with a bunch of stoned hippies? Whatever though... I'm off. wave when we go by at least!

09-29-2006, 05:00 PM	#216
Skipper Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: in transit Posts: 38,581	Mark and I are going to run out in the middle of the intersection and wave.

09-29-2006, 05:22 PM	#218
StreetDreams Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: ghettobicoke Posts: 623	Im organizing an event where I get a bunch of SUV drivers together and we drive around downtown looking for cyclists to run over and then pour gasoline all over them.

09-29-2006, 05:26 PM	#219
PosTMOd Member Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Here, there, nowhere, everywhere Posts: 31,974	I'm organizing an event where we get a bunch of m-m-m-monster trucks and drive around running over SUVs.

09-29-2006, 05:28 PM	#220
StreetDreams Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: ghettobicoke Posts: 623	shit

09-29-2006, 05:31 PM	#221
PosTMOd Member Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Here, there, nowhere, everywhere Posts: 31,974	Last summer, Caribana weekend...

09-30-2006, 07:09 AM	#222
Jeffsus TRIBE Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Right here! Posts: 9,342	Hipsters? Toronto? There are hipsters in Williamsburg, that's it. Toronto of course has plenty of underemployed, but it's a terrible faux pas to think of them as "hipsters", in the original sense of the word. Also, with so many trees, a lake, and only two (or 3 now?) subway lines, it makes me shudder to think that there are people who consider Toronto not only urbane but also populated with 'hipsters'. It's a nasty shame. When you fly over 'Toronto', you can see clear from hamilton to lake simcoe. The vast majority of it is trees or lake. Toronto has such a good thing going on with the (albeit cliched) "liveable city" that I hate to see them (miserably and inaccurately) aspiring to a pseudo-urbanity. Appreciate what you got folks! -jM A&D

09-30-2006, 07:52 AM	#223
kyfe TRIBE Member Join Date: Apr 2000 Posts: 13,636	cyclists always! disobey the rules of the road be it someone out getting exercise or a courier. I've seen many cyclists put themselves in harms way only to yell at the driver, even though they are clearly wrong cyclists get no sympathy from me, they are the nucleus of alot of road rage. If I saw this group running a red against me. I'd mow those hippy bitches down

09-30-2006, 07:57 AM	#224
Jeffsus TRIBE Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Right here! Posts: 9,342	The funny thing is, when you hit a cyclist, they break their leg but you can wash the blood off your fender. By "fender", I mean the sort of chromed ditty adorning a nice pink chevy convertible from the foul year of our lord 1971. -jM A&D

09-30-2006, 08:51 AM	#225
NXUS12 TRIBE Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 103	I think road rage is an unfortunate side effect of traffic congestion that effect drivers and cyclist alike. Cyclist less so because by ignoring the rules of the road they can avoid a lot of said congestion. This is just IMHO based on my observations over the last 15 to 20 years living in the city. People are just becoming more and more impatient and less tolerant of there fellow man. All we can do is lead by example and not be a dick on a bike or in a car. Ever notice how when you do something nice for a stranger you often see them do something for someone else almost immediately after. It is pretty cool and if enough people start being tolerant and nice to others this chain reaction is bound to hit “critical mass”