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The Swastika is a really cool design

Discussion in 'TRIBE Main Forum' started by Vidman, Mar 20, 2002.

  1. Vidman

    Vidman TRIBE Member

    I think it's a really neat design... the way it's a loop... and just, the way it looks. Too bad the Nazis destroyed any near-future use of the Swastika (in most countries). It could have made a great logo for a computer/tech company. It sort of looks like a chip or part of a ciruit board or some electronic component.

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    The Swastika is an ancient symbol of unknown origin that has been employed for thousands of years as a religious sign and a decorative emblem. It takes the form of an even cross with the arms bent in the middle at right angles; all bars point in the same direction, clockwise or counterclockwise. The swastika appeared in ancient China, Egypt, and India. It has been found on Greek coins, pre-Christian Celtic and Scandinavian artifacts, the catacombs of the early Christians in Rome, and Byzantine buildings. The swastika was widely used by American Indians. It represented the sun and infinity.

    In the 20th century, the swastika was adopted as the emblem of the Nazi party in German. Mistaking its origin, the Nazis regarded it as an "Aryan" symbol and linked it to the notion of their "racial superiority." ... When the war ended, the Allies banned display of the emblem, which had come to be indentified with the evils of Hitler's regime.
     
  2. OTIS

    OTIS TRIBE Member

    This reminds me of the happy birthday Hitler thread.
     
  3. smile

    smile TRIBE Member

    i agree.

    it's almost hypnotic.
     
  4. Rosey

    Rosey TRIBE Member

    nostra-rosey predicts:
    no good will come of this thread.
     
  5. gasper

    gasper TRIBE Member

    vidman = whore that desperately seeks attention
     
  6. Guest

    Guest Guest

    Isn't the reverse image of the Nazi swastika a traditional symbol of peace or sumpin?

    There's a town in northern Ontario, close to Kirkland Lake that's called Swastika. And Kitchener used to be called Berlin, till after WWII.

    That little small moustache that Hitler had must be the only look that is taboo for men. That, and it looks pretty retarded anyway.

    Just some more tidbits of useless info that pingpongs around the back of my head
     
  7. OTIS

    OTIS TRIBE Member

    No, I don't think so..

    I think he disclaimed the thread content properly..

    It reminds me of the "Happy Birthday Hitler" thread because the title eludes slightly to the thread content being pro-nazi where it's actually just full of fact.

    Sea did that like 2 years ago on Tribe.. I think he got banned.. or at the least bashed hard for it.
     
  8. SlipperyPete

    SlipperyPete TRIBE Member

    ^^^
    wow, 2 posts, 2 nasty little comments

    what's with the prevalence of trolls on the board these days?

    The swastika has all kinds of negative connotations, but Vidman is right, it's been around for millenia and has meanings other than those attached to it by the 3rd Reich.
     
  9. Vidman

    Vidman TRIBE Member

    Pff.. right. I think you're mistaking me for Plato.


    The Swastika has been around in various cultures way before Hitler's time. I'm just saying it's too bad Hitler fucked it all up because it could have been part of a high-tech logo.
     
  10. Guest

    Guest Guest

    I agree with Otis and Pete - its just interesting to learn about stuff.
     
  11. deep

    deep TRIBE Member

    yes, the original swastika is a hindu religious symbol signifying peace. among other things hitler ripped off from brown people, the swastika was inverted for nazi purposes. furthermore, the aryans as being the predecessors to the germans is a misnomer created by hitler - the aryans were actually a culture that eventually settled in india and who has more connection with brown people than the blond haired blue eyed ubermensche hitler propogated.
     
  12. SUNKIST

    SUNKIST TRIBE Member

    so....you like....stuff.....

    i dont see anything wrong with this thread. i didnt know it existed before Hitler, so it was good to read.
     
  13. gasper

    gasper TRIBE Member

    yeah, and vidman's primary objective is to educate us. only usually it's about a guy who spilled his coffee in kitchener or incoming low pressure systems that will bring snow. this time his teaching have more historical significance...sorry for calling him names, i'm in the wrong. woke up on the wrong side of the bed this afternoon, can you tell?
     
  14. Guest

    Guest Guest

    That thread is very offensive.
    That symbol means death to a lot of people.
    You think you are so smart calling it a cool symbol, people should look at it for what it is and that is the symbol of inoccent people dying.
    You probably don't find it offensive because your family wasn't murdered but those racists.
    Another racist thread that should be deleted!
    Some of you people are really ignorant!
     
  15. poker face

    poker face TRIBE Member

    Fuckin swastika!

    one time at a party some jackasses decided to take it upon themselves to carve swastikas into my car hood.

    So for 3 months after that I looked like a nazi!
     
  16. SlipperyPete

    SlipperyPete TRIBE Member

    yes, some people ARE really ignorant. Have you not read any of the comments up to where you posted? Yes, the swastika holds many negative connotations, but only because that symbol represents to people the Nazi Regime and all the horrible things that came out of it.

    If I were to murder 1000 people with a spork, I'd be evil. And for some the image of a spork would hold all sorts of negative connotations, and would remind people of the atrocities associated with that spork. However, sporks can continue to hold positive meanings for some, despite the atrocities I commited with one.

    It's a lame example, but the same holds true for the swastika -- more than one meaning can be associated with an item or symbol.
     
  17. stargurl*

    stargurl* TRIBE Member

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    Last edited: Mar 20, 2002
  18. daddyiwantchocolate

    daddyiwantchocolate TRIBE Member

    No, I don't think so.

    Picture of you + photoshop = amusement for me for about 4 minutes. Too bad I don't have PhotoShop.
     
  19. daddyiwantchocolate

    daddyiwantchocolate TRIBE Member

    LOL :D
     
  20. kodos

    kodos TRIBE Member

    ok what sucker is going to take pest's bait?
     
  21. kurtz

    kurtz TRIBE Member


    thats a tough sell with all the idelogies behind nazism... i mean nazi were 'intellectuals' who perverted everything they came into contact with... wagner, German context with ancient rome and bismark, even hegel. so it represents much more than just an action... but i guess if there are no facts in the world, all we have is interpretations, and unfort. nazi germany applied them with a hammer... followed by tanks. ;)
     
  22. Guest

    Guest Guest

    What garbage that symbol represents a lot more then just a cool symbol and you know it.
    That symbol represents death and fear for many innocent people.
    How would you feel if you had to run and be fearful for your life watching out for a certain symbol all the time.
    Grow the fuck up!
     
  23. SUNKIST

    SUNKIST TRIBE Member

    are you on a plight to make a good name for yourself yet again? a lot of the stuff you have posted is offence to some people as well-yet you frequently failed to recognize it. its not like vidman said "the swastika is a cool symbol", posted one, and left it at that. he explained the history behind before it ever adopted the negative connotations. to strictly see it as the negative and refuse to learn, or even tolerate prior meaning is ignorance if you ask me.

    p.s. kodos, me. but its the first time i have ever done it. first tiems free :)
     
  24. Respect

    Respect TRIBE Member

    "I think the great lesson of the 20th century is that you have to seperate the ethics from the aesthetics. . . The great lesson there is that you don't have to agree with what the Nazis did, but yes, be honest about it, they did have the best uniforms. A lot of people can't come to terms with something as banal as that."

    - Andrew Eldritch (Sisters of Mercy)
     
  25. deep

    deep TRIBE Member

    [​IMG]

    it's really only 20 seconds
     

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