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The Motherbitch Of File Sharing : Direct Connect ++

Discussion in 'TRIBE Main Forum' started by deep, Apr 2, 2002.

  1. deep

    deep TRIBE Member

    I've said it before and I'll say it again, I think this is the best general file sharing app out there at the moment and definately worth checking out.

    1. Download the program here :

    http://dcplusplus.sourceforge.net

    Movies, software, images, music, basically any type of file can be shared on the direct connect network, and since the hubs that interconnect users are private and non-localized, this network is highly resistant to the RIAA or other groups trying to shut it down. There is no spyware or adware, as DC++ is an open source project, designed by users for users.

    2. There is no installation program. All you have to do is unzip it to the directory of your choice, and then doubleclick the program file (dcplusplus.exe)

    3. Go to File -> Settings

    Keep active mode if you are not behind a firewall, choose passive mode if you are

    Under the Downloads tab you can specify where files are saved to.

    Under sharing file you can specify which directories other users have access to. Keep in mind that not sharing a whole lot will prevent you from connecting to the better hubs, which often have rules about the minimal amount you must have shared to connect.

    Set your number of upload slots to 2-3 if you are on broadband. Most good hubs have a minimum requirement of upload slots.

    Under the Advanced Tab : check mark automatically follow redirects (this will send you to a new hub if the one you're connecting to is full), automatically search for alternate downloads (this will look for other users to complete files you're downloading if the user you're downloading from disconnects)

    4. Go to the public hubs list and browse through the list. Hubs vary in terms of their content (i.e. some are specific, some are general). You may connect to more than one hub at a time. I connect to around 6-8 myself. When you search only the hubs you are connected to will be searched, NOT all the hubs in the public hubs list. Generally the more users per hub the better the quality of available material, but on the smaller hubs you may have a greater chance of finding people with open download slots.

    5. Click the magnifying glass icon to search your connected hubs for whatever you want. You can specify the type of file to cut down on inappropriate search results. When you get your results, you can organize the results in a variety of ways. Sometimes it's useful to organize the results by open slots, or to have the option to only show users with open slots check marked. Try to pick users who are on faster than or equal to connections as you for maximum speeds. When you see a file you want, right click on the user's name and select download. The file will be automatically added to your download queue and you shouldn't need to do anything more than this. If you find that a user is offline or that you don't want the file you selected for downloading, go to your Download Queue page where you have the option of searching for alternate download sources or to remove the file from your queue.

    6. You may add hubs to your favourites list and have DC++ automatically connect to them on startup. To connect to them automatically, once you've added them to your favourite hubs list, open that list up and then make sure there is a checkmark beside the hub name so that it connects on startup.

    Separate note : I've thought about setting up a Tribe Direct Connect Hub...many message boards and communities do this. This way anyone who wants to can connect to the hub and share their files with the rest of the hub. The advantage of this over the Tribe FTP site is that one user's system is not burdened with the load of serving files to everyone else, if we set up a direct connect hub the demands would be distributed across users as necessary. This way we could share more in total as well as have in general better transfer speeds. Hubs can be password protected so we could lock out non-Tribers. And it's easier for people to just share directories instead of having to upload files to make them available to others - with a DC network setup people could just grab shit as they pleased. I'd have to look more into this, as from what I have experienced on other private hubs, running a hub is a fairly intensive demand that requires decent bandwidth and regular maintenance in order to work.
     
    Last edited: Apr 2, 2002
  2. BigBadBaldy

    BigBadBaldy TRIBE Member

    Thanks deep.

    Even though I'm sure I could have figured it out.

    Reminds me a little of Hotline, the way it sounds.

    BBB.

    Gonna kick KaZaA and ADIOS! Audiogalaxy.
     
  3. daddyiwantchocolate

    daddyiwantchocolate TRIBE Member

    Sweet god and good christ deep!

    Look at your post total...

    :D
     
  4. deep

    deep TRIBE Member

    Re: Thanks deep.

    Just a note, I don't think audiogalaxy is worth nuking in favor of direct connect. While the variety of material available on DC++ is better, audiogalaxy still has a massive user base at the moment ( meaning more files) as well as a simple interface which does the job for obtaining music only. I keep them both on my system. Soulseek is excellent for electronic music as well, but the client is comparatively buggy to DC++ and Audiogalaxy.
     
  5. deep

    deep TRIBE Member

    Also, you can browse all of a user's files ala napster by right clicking on their name in the hublist and selecting get file list.

    There is also obviously the option to chat in the hubs that you connect to but I never do.
     
  6. Plato

    Plato TRIBE Member

    its catty, exclusive, and a place for the geeks who were outcasts in highschool to be running the popular cliques and kick out people to make themselves feel better

    some hubs do not like you using dc++

    so wtf are we suppossed to use then!?

    some hubs want a minimum of like 40 gigs in order to stay in the hub!! shouldnt it be based on quality not quantity, so many times i go through the files of those that have huge storage spaces only to find its alll shite!

    lately i've been finding it hard to resume files too.

    finding good music on it is imposible! so many people have shite, what techno i do find is usually just mtv style electronica hits or "dj nintendo - pacman (tetr remix)" style shite.

    booo!

    im hoping it gets better. WAY BETTER!

    but for now, soulseek = music
    dc++ = divx

    p[l]a+0
     
  7. BigBadBaldy

    BigBadBaldy TRIBE Member

    DC++ looks like it's probably better for finding DivX rips of older movies, software, etc.. not that I would ever download copyrighted material, though.

    BBB.

    AhEm.
     
  8. swenard

    swenard TRIBE Member

    The last time you mentioned dc++ I downloaded it. It is awesome!
    I use it all of the time.


    Shawn<---doesn't chat either!
     
  9. labRat

    labRat TRIBE Member

    where's the mac version?
     
  10. deep

    deep TRIBE Member



    The good thing is you're not bitter...

    The standard direct connect client which can be downloaded at http://www.neo-modus.com

    Quality is a subjective measure, what you think is good other people may think is crap. Quantity is a numerical, objective measure, and easier way to ensure that people actually do share a lot of shit. For example, one way that people were getting around having to share anything worthwhile in the early days of Direct Connect was to share meaningless directories, such as their operating system directory. These types of directories have a lot of files, so it makes it look like someone is sharing a whole lot, but in reality the actual usefulness of what is shared is minimal.

    The client automatically resumes files by itself. Check your settings, you've probably changed something.

    Again, reserve judgments until you have properly used the network, I have no problem finding good music on there. Your problem is probably that you don't have enough shared to be allowed access to the better hubs and are connecting to crappy hubs. That's not the fault of the network.
     
  11. deep

    deep TRIBE Member

    It's good for files in general. The nice thing that it and Soulseek have over Audiogalaxy is that you can browse user's directories or search by album title, so that you can retrieve an entire album instead of having to piecemeal it together track by track as you do through Satellite.
     
  12. Plato

    Plato TRIBE Member

    thats what im talking about. some people share their entire directories in order to have the necessary 40+ gigs to get on the so called "good hubs"
    im not basing it on good or crappy music. jst many time i open someones files and theres nothing to download, jut a bunch of system files.


    i have not played around with my settings. it resumed perfectly but then one day it got difficult.

    and how did you find these hubs? connections? friends let you on? once agian the cliqeyness of it.

    thats why i like soulseek better, no attitudes.

    p[l]a+0
     
  13. JayIsBored

    JayIsBored TRIBE Member

    hahaha
     
  14. OTIS

    OTIS TRIBE Member

    I'D TOTALLY BE INTERESTED IN SHARING ON A TRIBE HUB

    I've got loads of stuff here at work and a fat connection.
     
  15. deep

    deep TRIBE Member

    Well, disconnect from those hubs and find others. The good hubs have admins who kick + ban people who try and abuse the network.

    It's not cliquey-ness, it's ensuring that users who do go out of their way to share high quality material aren't overrun by people who only seek to leech and not share anything. This is not a drawback, it's an advantage. If a file sharing network grows to a certain size, the number of users downloading things grows faster than the number of users sharing, and consequently the people sharing are burdened more and more. Eventually they just stop sharing and the network goes to shit. Having private hubs allows people to trade things that they may not want openly accessible to leeches as opposed to people who trade fairly.


    If this seems like it requires an inordinate effort keep in mind that all these programs are STILL LETTING PEOPLE DOWNLOAD ALL KINDS OF SHIT FOR FREE.

    The alternative to file sharing is for things to go back to the pre-p2p days where it was a hundred times more elitist and underground. This is still the main pipeline through which music, games, software, movies, etc. are distributed but pretty much inaccessible to the average joe. So despite perceived "cliquishness" these types of networks are still the most accessible option to the average user.
     
  16. Plato

    Plato TRIBE Member

    Re: I'D TOTALLY BE INTERESTED IN SHARING ON A TRIBE HUB

    me and stargurl were talking about thise a few weeks ago. it'd be great! :)

    no more tribe ftp being the middle person (sorry watcher)

    p[l]a+0
     
  17. OTIS

    OTIS TRIBE Member

    I'd rather deal with a bunch of cliquiness then deal with popup windows, spyware, fake files and sharing shit i don't want to.
     
  18. deep

    deep TRIBE Member

    dc++ has no popups, no spyware. Sometimes users will try and share useless directories as stated above, but they are generally the exception rather than the rule, and admins kick people who share a lot of small sized files. The nice thing about DC is that servers can be modified with scripts and what not, at this point the good hubs have a lot of safeguards in place to prevent people from flooding the network, sharing garbage, or being a tool in general.
     
  19. LoopeD

    LoopeD TRIBE Member

    dunno why people insist on NOT using WinMX

    cause I've gotten about 20 Gigs in the last 4 months, of every genre ranging from obscure goa to Bruce Springsteen to great live sets to the entire Grateful Dead box set. Also movies, porn and software galore. And you can browse someone's entire music directory. And resume downloads. And queue files. And its much easier to use, with a Napster-esque interface........

    Oh, and the more people who use it, the more stuff there is, so get on it!:D

    Why complicate matters with anything else?





    :)d
     
  20. beaker

    beaker TRIBE Member

    doublecross set me up with this program and it's very impressive.
     
  21. labRat

    labRat TRIBE Member

    [​IMG]
    Do I amuse you?

    --craig
     
  22. deep

    deep TRIBE Member

    General hints :

    Games : look for ISO files or BIN files. If you find BIN files you will need the corresponding (same file name) CUE file in order to burn it (with CDRWIN, Fireburner, etc.). Try to organize your search results by total size and opt for the largest files you can find - these will have the greatest likelihood of being complete.

    Music : Try reducing your searches to fundamental keywords . Keep an eye on the results you get - a user may have multiple files stored in a particular directory, if that directory name is the name of the album you're after, then get that user's file list and download the entire directory or cue up all the files to get the whole album.

    Software : Generally your safest bet is to try and find files that are still in their zipped form. Again, try and look for similarly named files shared by a single user, and browse their file list to obtain all the files.

    Movies : Sometimes you have to go by the divx ripping group naming conventions so it's a good idea to try and search for the smallest universal term applicable. For example when I went to download the entire previous season of the Sopranos it helped to first search for the Sopranos. Then in the results I could see that the episodes were named in a certain format (i.e. S3 E2 for season three episode 2). If I wanted a particular episode I could search specifically for it that way, if that didn't turn up results then I would search for the sopranos in general.

    And of course there are bucketloads of porn which can be searched by the usual keywords.
     
  23. deep

    deep TRIBE Member

    MAC USERS :

    There is apparently a direct connect java client that allows the DC network to be accessed by mac users. Can't comment on how good it is as I think the DC++ client is significantly better than the standard Neo Modus client, but you can give this a shot if you're interested.

    http://sourceforge.net/projects/javadc/
     
  24. swenard

    swenard TRIBE Member

  25. deep

    deep TRIBE Member

    As well I remember seeing a webpage where someone had set up a program or website that could search ALL DC hubs on the direct connect network at once, but I'll have to dig a bit to find that again.

    That way, you can search all the hubs available and connect to the one(s) that have what you're looking for instead of having your searches restricted to the hubs you are actually connected to.
     

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