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progressive vs. funky

Discussion in 'Breaks Room' started by vinder, Mar 6, 2002.

  1. vinder

    vinder TRIBE Member

    which do you like? or both? why?

    do you think progressive breaks (or nu-skool) is going to finally push breaks into the forefront of electronic music?

    just curious, please don't hurt me. my name is not malglo and i don't think breaks are ass. though i heard he says they are.
     
  2. [- FuNKtiOn -]

    [- FuNKtiOn -] TRIBE Member

    well, I am a fan of the progressive breaks, but nothing will replace my love for the funk and it's booty-shaking influence.
     
  3. Eclectic

    Eclectic TRIBE Member

    I'm with Funktion.


    While I do enjoy a lot of the nu skool/progressive tracks out there nothing will replace that funk that's found deep down in my heart that makes my ass move left, then right.
    Then left
    Then right
    Left
    Right
    Left
    Right
    Left
    Right
    Left
    Right
    Left
    Right
    Back
    Back
    Thrust, thrust, thrust, thrust!!!


    Sorry........got a little carried away there.....
     
  4. Lexicon

    Lexicon TRIBE Member

    I tend to go for progressive breaks that has funk in them....
    There is somethin' in them which kicks you right in the butt and make you dance.....
     
  5. Colm

    Colm TRIBE Member

    progressive? ah, nu-skool....

    would have to take it for me. Funky breaks certainly have their time and place, but that time is passing. Dont get me wrong the 'old-skool' funky breaks (or whatever) are fun, but old fun.
    A lot of the nu-skool coming out has SOME elements of the old in it (like any logical progression of music) but I really like where its going...

    If you'd like to hear the best nu-skool each weak, tune into Kiss 100 breakbeat show fridays @ 9 (Eastern) currently with the very talented Tayo.

    Peace.
     
  6. Phat Trick

    Phat Trick TRIBE Promoter

    I'd have to say FUNK! No offence to Nu skool/progressive

    Some people say that funky breaks are the past and progressive is the future, I'd have to disagree.
    Funky breaks will always be around, its just there aren't as many people producing the stuff.
    Just like with house, (ick) there was a big debate on whether hard/tek/whatever house was the future, and if the groovy funky stuff was the past. Looking at that scene now, all those forms of house have survived and prospered.
    Just like with breaks, the funky stuf will survive and prosper. Our funky dj's are just going to have to get off their asses and produce more.
    That being said, watch out for DJ Love's new release. A quote from his email:"The A-side is a heavy beat song with female disco
    vocals but, the B-side...dude...you're gonna really dig this one. It's a
    ragga scorcher."

    Patrick
     
  7. BreakzBroad

    BreakzBroad TRIBE Member

    LONG LIVE THE FUNKY BREAKZ!!! They will always without a doubt be my fav. kind of breakz ever!!!!!!! Oh how i love them!!! Nuthing get's me dancing more!!! :D

    *jen*
     
  8. Colm

    Colm TRIBE Member

    I totally agree, I myself hope that different types of breakbeats prosper... its the healthiest for all. There certainly needs to be more production though... thats serious.
     
  9. ~Loress~

    ~Loress~ TRIBE Member

    HARD FUNKY BREAKS!!!!!! :D:D:D

    Anyone who knows me KNOWS that I'm a huge fan of anything with a breakbeat, I LOVE nu-skool/progressive/acid/old-skool...whatever... just give me a breakbeat and I'm happy! Speed up some hip-hop or slow down some D&B! But FUNKY HARD breaks has always been my favourite and will continue to be. :) Nu-skool can also have a twist of funk though...



    ~Lori
     
  10. Uncle Bobby

    Uncle Bobby TRIBE Promoter

    ^^sure more production would be nice, but I would not be willing to sacrifice quality for quantity. Funky is not getting old or tired at all. Check out the buzz about the 'how old school r u' party. How many people will go crazy over old school funk track after track after track? 'All you break ass cats can stop fakin' the funk.'

    UB.
     
  11. !Myagi!

    !Myagi! TRIBE Member

    i like good breaks, nu, prog or funky....theres brilliance and crap in each
     
  12. kprior

    kprior TRIBE Member

    Nu School, Progressive

    I think that alot of Funky Breaks, being Old and New are dope. Although, I think that the ol' school funky breaks indeed have had there time and place. I have been listening, and buying the records for some time now. My love for the funky beats is still alive, but hearing the Djs such as, Dj Dan , John Kelly, Eric Davenport, and John E to name a few play the funky west coast style for many years of my life I have come to a conclusion that the time has passed. I have heard all of those tracks one to many times. Although, don't get me wrong I still bust my ass when I hear them. But, I say that the time of funky breaks is over, and in steps the nuer progressier sound. The production is flawless and Djs are taking the breakbeatz to a higher level of understanding and atmosphere. I believe that alot of progressive tracks being released still have funky aspects to it, but with some added complexity. ie. Gonzo 1, a phat ol' school track remastered with a phater beat.

    Thus, I like the progressive, and newer sound more...I think but funky breaks, will always be in my heart.

    kp
     
  13. Sugar D

    Sugar D TRIBE Promoter

    well said...
     
  14. ~Loress~

    ~Loress~ TRIBE Member

    Re: Nu School, Progressive

    very well said...I couldn't agree more with you.

    ~Lori
     
  15. BreakzBroad

    BreakzBroad TRIBE Member

    hehe......and there's mark's 2 cents for the next couple months!! :D

    *jen*
     
  16. kprior

    kprior TRIBE Member

    Costain, you have a way with words.
     
  17. KickIT

    KickIT TRIBE Member

    I don't know about you guys, but I'd love for some Big Beat to come back. Maybe mix it up with some nu-skool and funky, but the original Brighton Big Beat sound was where it was at.

    *c*
     
  18. noahmintz

    noahmintz TRIBE Member

    I prefer nu skool ... cause nu skool breaks are the way of the future ... and cause they simply kick ass ...
    As for funky breaks ... they're alright
    I wouldn't necessairly say they are in the past ... but they are definately played out

    stu
     
  19. Spinsah

    Spinsah TRIBE Member

    I think the production quality in nu skool is much better. When I listen to stuff coming out on Canadian labels like 2 Wars I realize that breaks is really entering a new era. I've been buying so many fucking breaks records in the past six months I barely go looking for anything else anymore. Perhaps my ears just weren't open enough back in the hey day of the funky breaks era but I think the hybrid tracks that come out containing both funky and nu skool elements are enough to keep the funky disciples happy. The Plump DJ's and the Drumattic Twins are producers who walk that fine line and still crank out great tunes. On the other side of the coin I just picked up the Starecase dub of Beber and Tamra's "You Wonder" and I suppose this is what you'd classify as progressive breaks.

    This may be a bad comparison but the breaks transition from the more percussive oriented funky sounds of a few years ago seems somewhat akin to the ragga period of DnB. Now with the more complex and darker basslines of nu skool coupled with straight to the point percussive it seems to have paralleled DnB's evolution quite nicely. Regardless of all these classifications and genre splitting IMO the production quality of breaks is only getting better and as long as it keeps heading in that direction I forsee a great deal of the cash in my wallet being forked over to the friendly neighbourhood breaks merchant!
     
    Last edited: Mar 6, 2002
  20. Sugar D

    Sugar D TRIBE Promoter

    Ha! dude I wish I had time to write a novel but I'm at work...
     
  21. Sugar D

    Sugar D TRIBE Promoter

    ...or until the next nu-skool vs. funky debate which I'm sure will only be a matter of days! :)
     
  22. !Myagi!

    !Myagi! TRIBE Member

    I couldn't agree more - at the same time though, the big bouncy sound that was championed by cut la roc, monkey mafia, wiseguys, fatboy et al. was a little TOO much for some people...at some point i think that the rise of darkness in nu-skool breaks is a direct response to the sugary sweetness of big beat.

    I read an interview with freddy fresh on breaksworld, which was run rougly five months after mixmag ran the article "big beat is dead," in which they said that the 'movement' had met its demise and was now called "smash house." The interview basically explained that, in Freddy's opinion, not only was the idea of declaring a style dead completely idiotic, but also that any shows he had played since big beat's apparent funeral had gone over amazingly...and so you have a bit of a mystery...how is it that promotors and distributors push a sound and then change directions for no apparent reason?

    i think that the easiest answer is that big beat never existed....not as a sound anyway, and those who did declare themselves "big beat" producers or dj's is a loose sense have had anything but mundane careers since, and the people im thinking of are krafty kuts, soul of man and the FLR guys, Fatboy Slim, and even Cut La Roc, whose single freeze was played out like crazy by sasha and bedrock.

    eclectic mentality and track selection HAS survived, and generally the people who always impress me most are the ones who incoporate many genres into their sets, and arn't afraid to reach back a year or two to play the tracks that are worth hearing. New promos and the newest tracks are great, but im at a loss trying to figure out how any dj can claim to have an individual style when all they do is play out the latest three months releases from a certain genre, be it funky, nu-skool, progressive, or whatever the hell labels and distributors want to name the current crop of music. Genres will rise and fall, but it should be because of the feeling of the dancefloor, not the magazines and the people who print up obituaries for nametags.

    big ups to beaker and jelo, two local-ish guys who come to mind when it comes to fusing styles.

    when i played at TemperTantrum's tribe board new years party, i seem to remember a non-breaks DJ grabbing 3 tracks i knew i was gonna drop.....which made me pretty damn happy.
     
  23. Spinsah

    Spinsah TRIBE Member

    Interesting post Myagi.

    However don't you think that by analysing genre one can attain a deeper appreciation and understanding of its innerworkings? I think dividing and sub-dividing are essential parts of the human condition and through these actions we attain enlightenment. I agree that dancefloor music should be appreciated as such and for some there's no need to look further, however by examining the various elements of electronic music and their intertextualities I think one gains a broader appreciation of where the genre is coming from and where it is going.

    You're bang on about beaker and jelo though...electic dancefloor oriented sets are the most interesting to listen to and that should always be commended.

    Word.

    S.
     
  24. vinder

    vinder TRIBE Member

    everyone in this thread rocks the fat jam. i love hearing good and honest opinions.

    the best thing? none of the ass posts i'd get in the other forums.

    cheers to all of you and let the discussion continue!
     
  25. Uncle Bobby

    Uncle Bobby TRIBE Promoter

    Nice one, good catch!

    UB.
     

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