***OFFICIAL TRIBE REVIEW*** Blackhawk Down

Discussion in 'TRIBE Main Forum' started by el presidente Highsteppa, Jan 21, 2002.

  1. The dipiction of the botched snatch and grab mission in Somalia is a bit of a peculiar film - it's pretty much critic proof, as many of the regular conventions that are standard in most films (ie. character developpment) are thrown out the window in favour for a graphic recreation of what happened. The same can be said for the book, as it was more a minute by minute account of the mission from many different perspectives, accumulated by eyewitness accounts as well as participants in the skirmish.

    By all means this is a pretty crazy movie, as it often puts you the viewer into the thick of things, giving a quasi-documentary feel at times of what it's like to be in the middle of a firefight, while the situation of the Americans goes from bad, to worse, to dire. Ridley Scott does a great job of creating a ugly situation, but showing off the technology at hand, the situations that the Delta Forces and Rangers faced and how utterly insane and dangerous warfare can be. It is one of the best recreations of a ground combat situation committed to film.

    However, this is pretty much all the film is, aside from the odd war rhetoric that the film offers up (ie. "When the first bullet whizzes by your head, politics and all that shit go out the window...") but not a whole lot else. This is not necessarily a bad thing, but might not appeal to some viewers as the film is essentially two hours of shouting, shooting and running. It is first and formost a recreation of war and very little else.

    But the film does astonish at a technical level as it does make a battle scene look incredibly busy, complicated and dangerous. Shoot outs are intense and bloody, and the wounds that some of these people suffer (although scaled down, as I'm finding it very astonishing that some of the people who got shot survived their wounds) is graphic, ugly and very, very bloody. This is not a movie for squeamish viewers.

    And the film does get all it can out of a very, very good cast. Ewan MacGregor, Tom Sizemore, Josh Harnett (this makes up for Pearl Harbour), Jeremy Piven, Jason Isaacs, Ewen Bremner, William Fitchner and Sam Sheppard all turn in excellent performances with what little screen time they get to act with, most making an impression and making themselves as very identifyable as the film unfolds.

    I did like this film a great deal. It was a good movie for what it was: a war movie and a minute by minute recount of what happened (but abbreviated and altered a bit from the book, which I do recommend reading) from a U.S. point of view. It is not a flag waiving rah-rah America film, which many seem to see it as being, it is a depiction of American soldiers in a frantic situation and dealing with it.

    James Duncan
    AKA el presidente Highsteppa
  2. Oh yeah, and Eric Bana is the shit in this. He's going to be a huge fucking movie star, catch him while you can.
  3. Balzz

    Balzz TRIBE Member

    Just saw it today, and just by coincidence, I got home and CNN was airing the blackhawk down documentary. It was strange to relate what was said in the documentary back to the movie that was still fresh in my mind. Definitely a good movie-experience.
  4. tommysmalls

    tommysmalls TRIBE Member

    What does this mean?
  5. Before he goes Mel Gibson.

    From the Ministry of damned if I know. He's just a really good actor. [​IMG]

    Prime Minister Highsteppa
  6. noahmintz

    noahmintz Well-Known Member

    Once he becomes big time he's going to start staring in wonderful films like Pearl Harbor, Tomb Raider, Jurrasic Park 3 and Howard The Duck

  7. noahmintz

    noahmintz Well-Known Member

    Hey hey hey ... hold up a second!
    Mel Gibson is a great actor
    Name a bad movie he was in ... I don't think you can

  8. Lethal Weapon 4
    Bird on a Wire
    Air America

    From the Ministry of Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome took a pretty steep nose dive after he got kicked out of Bartertown.

    Prime Minister Highsteppa
  9. noahmintz

    noahmintz Well-Known Member

    Lies ... it's all lies I tell you!
    I agree with Hamlet ... but that's it!



    and is Josh Hartnet's hottness off the meter?
  11. Are you telling me you thought he should have beaten up Jet Li in Lethal Weapon 4? The Riggs was done by the third movie. There shouldn't have been a third Lethal Weapon, much less a fourth. The only good thing about 4 imho, was Chris Rock.

    I hated 4 because it was a sequel for the sake of being a sequel. One and two rocked, and the rest went downhill from there for me [​IMG]

    From the Ministry of there's rumour that a Lethal Weapon 5 is being considered.

    Prime Minister Highsteppa
  12. Viceroy

    Viceroy TRIBE Member

    I didn't love this movie, but I didn't hate it either.

    First of all, Josh Harnett needs to stop making movies like this. He didn't fit the part at all, and his sad *** puppy dog face really started to upset me towards the end.

    The other thing that didn't fit was when they played that Jimi Hendrix song when they were going in to start the mission. That was just wrong.

    Other than that, this "documentary" had me interested the whole time. I could feel myself letting go of the armrests and letting go a deep breath at the end of every scene. Ridley did do a good job, but it didn't compliment his older style, which I like better.

    I also felt sort of guilty, paying money to watch a movie about events similar to those happening in our world right now. Maybe that is what towned down my joy about this film.

    Very graphic, intense. 3/5 stars.

  13. Oh yeah

    Million Dollar Hotel

    What do you expect from a film written by U2's Bono and which Mel Gibson himself referred to as being "about as exciting as a dog's ass?"

    From the Ministry of he said it himself.

    Prime Minister Highsteppa

    PS Lori -> I wouldn't know. I almost walked out of the movie, as it was one huge sausage party. No hot chicks in bikinis anywhere! WTF?!
  14. They were riffing (or ripping off) the whole Apocalypse Now feeling.

    From the Ministry of that's what I got from it.

    Prime Minister Highsteppa
  15. koz

    koz TRIBE Member

    What Women Want.
  16. I forgot about that one.

    From the Ministry of the curse of Helen Hunt

    Prime Minister Highsteppa
  17. noahmintz

    noahmintz Well-Known Member

    Want Women Want was good if you take it for what it is ... a light hearted comedy
    I forgot about Million Dollar Hotel though ... I remember me and my girl rented that and we turned it off about 20 minutes in ... now that was a BAD movie
    Lethal Weapon 4 wasn't the greatest of movies ... however Mel and Danny Glover do have good chemistry as did Danny and Chris Rock ... I admit Jet Li getting beat up at the end was kinda lame ... but whatever it wasn't that bad of a movie

  18. Interestingly enough, in the first few drafts of LW4, Riggs was supposed to be killed by Li.

    From the Ministry of then they changed their minds, as test audiences didn't like it.

    Prime Minister Highsteppa


    hehe..that is all. code red! we need more sausage to the Paramount!
  20. No no, I mean onscreen. Did you know there's nothing but guys in this film? I mean, what's the army thinking?! How do they expect to get any action?!?!

    There's a couple of Somalian chicks, but they're all wrapped up in robes.

    From the Ministry of no sex in this.

    Prime Minister Highsteppa


    well then..
    code red! we need more sausage on the set!
  22. Viceroy

    Viceroy TRIBE Member

    exactly, something that just shouldn't have been done.
  23. Well, I don't know about that, as a lot of Military recruits are attracted to the Hollywood depiction of what life in the army is like, and like to emulate it as much as possible. And, as you could see in the beginning with the safari hunt and subsequent barbeque, they were living their dream of doing the things that they deem as being cool thanks to Hollywood. Most recruits have seem just about every military film, and the military brass themselves like to screen these films themselves as it serves as morale boosters. Life imitates art no?

    I kind of agree with you, however, in the sense that I kind of expected a little more from Ridley Scott, as he is capable of marrying images with music in a very unique way, but at the same time, I'd be hard pressed to think of a better way to emulate and/or top a kind of image that has been a standard since Francis Ford Coppola's masterpeice.

    From the Ministry of retort.

    Prime Minister Highsteppa
  24. noahmintz

    noahmintz Well-Known Member

    Well to get back on topic ...
    I really want to see this movie
    But I'm a little bit werry
    I know a couple of people who have seen it and say it's not a flag waving hurray for USA kind of movie
    But in the back of my head I highly doubt this
    American war movies are very often just stories that are bent out of shape to make the US troops look good ... but then again I'm just a hard ass when it comes to these things being a history student and all
    And on a side note ... do you know that the guy who wrote the story behind Saving Private Ryan has been found out to have plagerized in many of his books ... I found that to be very interesting!

  25. LivingRoomPornstar

    LivingRoomPornstar TRIBE Member

    I actually liked Gibson in Hamlet.

    so shuddup the both of you. [​IMG]


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