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Frozen meals in a bag

Discussion in 'TRIBE Main Forum' started by Snuffy, Nov 29, 2009.

  1. AshG

    AshG Member

    here's an interesting fact.

    so, i consume more sodium than anyone i know.

    my last physical, asked my doctor about it, and his response was, "you do realize that excess sodium effects only 25% of the world's population?".
    Upon further questioning regarding blood pressure, etc., he assured me that the effect he was describing part and parcel of this descriptor.

    i'm very glad he mentioned it as i have a very good health record otherwise.
    how the fuck is it that MOST people have no ill effect from excessive sodium consumption, yet Health Canada advises strongly against i?
  2. deep

    deep TRIBE Member

    chinese vegetables are monsters
  3. Snuffy

    Snuffy TRIBE Member

    When I worked on a strawberry farm, we picked the "fresh" berries while they were still white. Even after ripening, these berries were as hard as a rock and tasteless. The berries that were used for freezing were of a different strain - ripe, sweet, and tasty.

    Agree with you on the Swanson dinners. The Stouffer's skillet meals are much better quality, though, and it does reflect in the $6 regular price.
  4. Flashy_McFlash

    Flashy_McFlash Well-Known TRIBEr

    I'll admit I'm not entirely familiar with the Skillet things - I'm just initially suspicious of any precooked frozen dinner. I know there are some decent ones out there, though they're the exception rather than the rule.
  5. Bean

    Bean TRIBE Member

    absolutely, frozen > fresh!!

    however, there are many reasons to buy frozen produce:

    - seasonality: I personally can't stand the fresh strawberries that are available here in February and their cost. ;)
    - affordability: they're cheaper than fresh produce and if it came down to no produce or frozen produce, I would go with frozen produce.
    - availability: frozen produce is available year round.

    how do you feel about freezing your own produce (lots of folks do that)? i do this in the summer with berries and they turn out OK. ;)

    you have to differentiate between frozen meals (nutritional nightmares) and frozen produce (nothing added to them); nutritionally, they are not the same thing.
  6. swenard

    swenard TRIBE Member

    Not to defend meals in a bag, too much. But with awareness and new processing techniques, The meals in a bag aren't what are parents used to serve us.
  7. Lysistrata

    Lysistrata Well-Known TRIBEr

    i don't pay attention to how much sodium i eat. nor do i consciously make an effort to insert things with iron, protein, B12, etc into my diet even though for the most part i don't eat meat. my doc has never told me i have low levels of anything. earlier this year my gf, who loooves red meat, was told by her doc that she has low levels of iron. so when i went to my doc and he was doing hte full array of bloor tests i was really inquisitive and actually rather pushy about it, questioning my levels of everything. apparently i'm totally fine. he says i'm really healthy (with the caveats that i shouldn't drink and smoke so much of course!)
  8. Flashy_McFlash

    Flashy_McFlash Well-Known TRIBEr

    25% of the world's population includes a LOT of people though (1,700,000,000 people roughly). I mean, I'm sure that Maori tribesmen aren't worried about excess salt in their poutine, but 25% could still cover a good part of the developed world. To say that it's not something we should be concerned about because 'most' people on earth don't have this problem seems disingenuous.

    Not to mention that there's no way that stat could really be substantiated in an accurate way.
    Last edited: Dec 1, 2009
  9. lucky1

    lucky1 TRIBE Member

    i think most people like to keep a little bit of "easy" food on hand. Days when you work late, are broke, aren't feeling well etc. so much eaier to throw some frozen food in the pan/ oven, and still healthier then take away food. At leas there is still veggies, and protien, and the food is not laden with transfat. I never watched my sodium, but this summer I had problems with low sodium, feeling dizzy and stuff so now I drink gatorade/ sports drinks to keep my sodium normal and I feel pretty good with the extra sodium. Its funny when your sodium is too low foods taste really salty and you don't want to eat them. So salt is important to our bodies too...all the nerve impulses that make us work require it... you need to eat some!
  10. Lysistrata

    Lysistrata Well-Known TRIBEr

    best is just to make your own meals and freeze them. serious, i'll make a full meal for 4 people even if i'm at home by myself. then i'll freeze some of the rest and take some for lunches.
  11. vinder

    vinder TRIBE Member

    so it's not just prepackaged foods, it's any foods that are cooked vs. raw. what are you going to do, eat raw meat, fresh vegetables, and grains off the stalks?
  12. Flashy_McFlash

    Flashy_McFlash Well-Known TRIBEr

    That actually sounds kinda good. Well, the raw meat part. You'd have to give up chicken and probably pork though.
  13. swenard

    swenard TRIBE Member

    It reminds me of a family on wife swap that ate everything raw but not only raw, they didn't believe in refrigeration either and ate everything rotten.
  14. vinder

    vinder TRIBE Member

    i remember seeing this show on discovery where they ate chicken sashimi in japan as the chicken was super fresh. not sure if i'd do that with the chicken from the grocery store that's been there for a couple days.
  15. mingster

    mingster TRIBE Member


    obviously, most people are going to cook some things. i'm not advocating a raw food diet. i'm just making a point about the nutrition level of different foods, at different stages of preparation.
  16. Flashy_McFlash

    Flashy_McFlash Well-Known TRIBEr

    Really? I'd try that, but yeah only if it was super fresh, like if they plucked it tableside.
  17. Persephone

    Persephone TRIBE Member

    I'm glad that someone has addressed this (Flashy and others). There's a wealth of information out there about this. I personally keep a mixture of frozen and fresh on hand at all times.
  18. Casey

    Casey TRIBE Member

    As far as nutrition loss when cooking veggies -I would only be concerned about it if you are already malnourished and only eating one meal every few days or something. If you are already eating a well balance diet, eating cooked veggies verses raw veggies won't make a difference.

    I have bought a few frozen meals in bags lately. They weren't very good. I was sad after I ate them.
  19. deevah

    deevah TRIBE Member

    depends on the veggie

    corn and tomatoes are good - the high heat used in the canning process actually helps bring out the lutein and lycopene

    watch the sodium count
  20. Chaos

    Chaos TRIBE Member

    hahaha, one doctor tells you something and it becomes fact, hahaha.

    Sounds like you two deserve each other.
  21. Flashy_McFlash

    Flashy_McFlash Well-Known TRIBEr

    I still don't know how someone can generalize the dietary habits of the entire world, but maybe the doctor substantiated it somehow.
  22. Psyrel

    Psyrel TRIBE Member

    There are some year-round farmers markets! I go to the The Stop's Green Barn - very cool historic streetcar barns, one of which houses the neatest greenhouse ever. I'm not kidding when I say that I could live in there.

    List of Markets
  23. R4V4G3D_SKU11S

    R4V4G3D_SKU11S TRIBE Member

    I can't find these things anywhere!
  24. kirstenmeows

    kirstenmeows TRIBE Member

  25. Snuffy

    Snuffy TRIBE Member

    I think the sale at No Frills just ended so they're back up to $6 a bag.

    Pizzza pops are now on sale but those are without a doubt unhealthy. I may limit myself to only one 1.2 kg box ($4.99!!).

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