How do you record your sets?

jasonchaos · 09-16-2005, 12:02 PM

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Originally posted by ian
I just bought one of these:

24 bit Recording, Wave or MP3 and Compact Flash based memory. So far I'm loving the ease of use and the quality. It is a bit expensive though. It's more aimed at the professional I think.

thats nice how much if you don't mind me asking

cheers j

Sal De Ban · 09-28-2005, 12:38 PM

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Originally posted by Pascal
I've just recently started recording my mixes to cd (Get with the times Homer!!!!). I use a machine called (I think) HB Burn It 830.
It allows me to record my mixes the same as I would to a cassette tape and to me, the only downfall is that unless I have someone there, I don't indent my mixes track for track. Besides, I like leaving it as one long track anyways. My mix tells more of a story then.

LOL

xtcfreak · 10-25-2005, 07:02 PM

any thoughts on the upcoming gemini Ikey?

http://www.geminidj.com/ikey.html

I think it is a neet little gadget, but without any preamps in it, will the sound be ok? Im wondering how an external USB drive will pick that thing up?

Jay

Art Official · 01-06-2006, 10:07 PM

I have everything hooked up to my comp of course...so i just cue up sound forge 6 7 or 8, check the levels and press record...its too easy...35 sets later. When i want to break into tracks i just cut n paste.

jasonchaos · 01-04-2007, 08:15 PM

through wavelab or protools setting markers every track begining for easy chop up later

AshG · 01-04-2007, 09:29 PM

^
word of advice - don't ever chop up mixes.
its completely unnecessary, time consuming, and will sometimes result in little clips at those track marks.

MOD ONE · 01-30-2007, 01:50 PM

What's a good App to recorde your sets in?

I have a mac and I was looking at Sound Forge, but Sound Forge only works for MicroSoft.

johnny B rad · 07-13-2007, 04:59 PM

I have a mac, I use TOAST 7 . It works well, and you can do everything. cut your mix into tracks etc. etc..

w_ashley · 07-19-2007, 02:37 AM

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Originally Posted by mute79

i record straight to my minidisk, then export it to windows... never had any problems and the quality is always outstanding...

On this same topic of MD - I have a sony mini disk and sony's standard MD program Sonic Stage doesn't seem to support export from MD to computer - do you use a program to export - or do you use d/a audio out from the minidisc player/recorder

w_ashley · 07-19-2007, 02:41 AM

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Originally Posted by ~atp~

Hey, on the topic of recording to line-in, does anyone use a laptop for their recording? If so, have any of you noticed the noise that usually gets picked up on the line in? (Yes, even with top-notch components, a perfectly clean signal and a line-in recording channel with all other channels muted) ... I really want to buy a laptop and use Ableton live with my setup, while recording. The problem is that I just don't want to have to deal with that static... :-\

why not get an external soundcard like the extigy or newer models --- or really highend ones. extigy uses usb1 so it could in theory even be used with an older laptop..

casparproject · 08-07-2007, 12:23 PM

I use my Tascam DAT recorder. It's never failed me yet. I can't say so much for any computer I've ever owned. For live recording you can't take that chance.

p

gl*tch · 05-08-2008, 10:16 AM

Hey!

I'm looking for a "stand alone" recorder for live dj sets/performances. I don't want to use my laptop and i'd like to have as many inputs on the recorder as possible. After reviewing the thread, the iRiver ihp-120 seems to meet most of these needs. However, that was recommended almost 3yrs ago.

I'd like: to be able to transfer the recording to my computer w/ ease, long battery life, ease of use, balanced inputs (RCA, 1/4 inch, event 1/8 inch) enough memory to handle 12hrs of recording, and be relatively lightweight/durable.

Suggestions please!

khemistry · 05-08-2008, 10:48 AM

ikey^^^

gl*tch · 05-08-2008, 11:05 AM

what is that?

gl*tch · 05-09-2008, 10:50 AM

I searched iKEY and found the iKEY Plus but couldn't find any info on it's storage capacity anywhere! How much memory does this thing have?

unique2100 · 05-12-2008, 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by recoil

tape cassette bitrate

Chaz · 07-27-2008, 06:23 PM

PC Laptop
Echo Mona
Soundforge
Waves mastering plugins.

I've used this setup for years with great results and zero issues. Soundforge is stable and powerful as an editor. It easily let's you export regions and set up track markers. I have never had a glitch or skip on any mix. I find it strange that so many people have had issues with this kind of setup.

Although - I have heard many complaints from people using cracked versions of the software.

forrest avery · 10-20-2008, 03:02 PM

XLR out on Rain Empath to XLR in on my soundcard. Record .wav file in Wavelab.

For live sets I use an M-Audio Microtrack II. Handy device to have in your Dj bag.

SubMissioN · 03-18-2009, 10:38 PM

You need to check alot of things. Make sure you have nothing thats starts up on your toolbar when you boot up. You have to make sure you set your program settings to optimize to multi threading if you have a multicore processor. You have to adjust your sound card settings for latency. Depending on your motherboard you can overclock your processor. Get as much ram as you can. You can devote memory from your graphics by changing your operating system settings. Get a faster harddrive that reads and writes quicker. Partition your harddrive and install your plugins on a seperate partition from the one your software is installed on. Start with that.

SubMissioN · 03-18-2009, 10:55 PM

Oh yeah once you've maximized your ram, reduce your paging file so your cpu doesn't require your harddrive for memory. It slows it down. It needs to be able to access the ram directly.

SubMissioN · 03-18-2009, 10:58 PM

Then tweak your Ram in Bios.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...am,650-10.html

unique2100 · 03-19-2009, 12:49 AM

I key is dope. I now have one thanks to the GF. Records directly on to your ipod or to a gig stick. Wave or mp3. Badness.

SubMissioN · 03-19-2009, 01:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by unique2100

I key is dope. I now have one thanks to the GF. Records directly on to your ipod or to a gig stick. Wave or mp3. Badness.

Yeah thats Ok for Djing i guess but not for recording. You want to record at a higher sample rate or else you lose track dynamics. I mean if you use the DJM 800. Whats the point of having a high sample rate output if the original track is an mp3. Its still gonna sound like shit.

unique2100 · 03-19-2009, 01:46 AM

1. It records in wave, like I said.
2. Who's putting out sets in better then 320 mp3 anyways?
Most sets are 192 these days dude.
What are you outputting from a cdj that isn't a set and needs more then 16 bit 44.1? Plus this thread is about recording sets Dingle, so what are u on about?

SubMissioN · 03-19-2009, 02:00 AM

I understand what your saying but I'll explain it to you if the original wave isn't recorded at the same sample rate as the output like for instance 96k then the sound resolution (the dynamics) isn't there so when you play it out at 96k your just hearing the compressed version of the actual song. Don't get me wrong. 320 mp3s are considered cd quality but you have to remember that cd quality is only 44.1k which means that a 320 mp3 is a compressed version of 44.1k. So if you play that through a mixer that outputs 96k your not getting the most out of it and it changes your tempo map which changes the bpm at times. If your wave is 96k on a cd which is impossible then you would get the best sound quality. But if you use an external harddrive with 96k wave files and try it. You'll know exactly what i mean. It takes more harddrive space....but theres always going to be enough room for a set if you have a big harddrive.

08-07-2007, 12:23 PM	#61
casparproject New Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: North Toronto Posts: 24	Dat I use my Tascam DAT recorder. It's never failed me yet. I can't say so much for any computer I've ever owned. For live recording you can't take that chance. p

07-27-2008, 06:23 PM	#67
Chaz Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Castin' and Blastin' Posts: 330	PC Laptop Echo Mona Soundforge Waves mastering plugins. I've used this setup for years with great results and zero issues. Soundforge is stable and powerful as an editor. It easily let's you export regions and set up track markers. I have never had a glitch or skip on any mix. I find it strange that so many people have had issues with this kind of setup. Although - I have heard many complaints from people using cracked versions of the software. Last edited by Chaz; 07-27-2008 at 06:27 PM.

03-19-2009, 01:46 AM	#74
unique2100 TRIBE Promoter Join Date: Jan 2000 Location: toronto Posts: 10,454	1. It records in wave, like I said. 2. Who's putting out sets in better then 320 mp3 anyways? Most sets are 192 these days dude. What are you outputting from a cdj that isn't a set and needs more then 16 bit 44.1? Plus this thread is about recording sets Dingle, so what are u on about? Last edited by unique2100; 03-19-2009 at 01:50 AM.

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10-25-2005, 07:02 PM	#53
xtcfreak TRIBE Member Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In between cant afford and have nothing! Posts: 3,551	any thoughts on the upcoming gemini Ikey? http://www.geminidj.com/ikey.html I think it is a neet little gadget, but without any preamps in it, will the sound be ok? Im wondering how an external USB drive will pick that thing up? Jay

01-06-2006, 10:07 PM	#54
Art Official TRIBE Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Toronto Posts: 113	I have everything hooked up to my comp of course...so i just cue up sound forge 6 7 or 8, check the levels and press record...its too easy...35 sets later. When i want to break into tracks i just cut n paste.

01-04-2007, 08:15 PM	#55
jasonchaos TRIBE Promoter Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: on the 1's and 2's Posts: 524	through wavelab or protools setting markers every track begining for easy chop up later

01-04-2007, 09:29 PM	#56
AshG TRIBE Promoter Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: with my head in the sand Posts: 11,603	^ word of advice - don't ever chop up mixes. its completely unnecessary, time consuming, and will sometimes result in little clips at those track marks.

01-30-2007, 01:50 PM	#57
MOD ONE TRIBE Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: PS3 Fanboy number one!!! Posts: 7,004	What's a good App to recorde your sets in? I have a mac and I was looking at Sound Forge, but Sound Forge only works for MicroSoft.

07-13-2007, 04:59 PM	#58
johnny B rad TRIBE Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: L-Town Posts: 738	I have a mac, I use TOAST 7 . It works well, and you can do everything. cut your mix into tracks etc. etc..

05-08-2008, 10:16 AM	#62
gl*tch TRIBE Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: warping non-stop Posts: 2,287	Hey! I'm looking for a "stand alone" recorder for live dj sets/performances. I don't want to use my laptop and i'd like to have as many inputs on the recorder as possible. After reviewing the thread, the iRiver ihp-120 seems to meet most of these needs. However, that was recommended almost 3yrs ago. I'd like: to be able to transfer the recording to my computer w/ ease, long battery life, ease of use, balanced inputs (RCA, 1/4 inch, event 1/8 inch) enough memory to handle 12hrs of recording, and be relatively lightweight/durable. Suggestions please!

05-08-2008, 10:48 AM	#63
khemistry TRIBE Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Park Posts: 1,910	ikey^^^

05-08-2008, 11:05 AM	#64
gl*tch TRIBE Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: warping non-stop Posts: 2,287	what is that?

05-09-2008, 10:50 AM	#65
gl*tch TRIBE Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: warping non-stop Posts: 2,287	I searched iKEY and found the iKEY Plus but couldn't find any info on it's storage capacity anywhere! How much memory does this thing have?

10-20-2008, 03:02 PM	#68
forrest avery TRIBE Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 48	XLR out on Rain Empath to XLR in on my soundcard. Record .wav file in Wavelab. For live sets I use an M-Audio Microtrack II. Handy device to have in your Dj bag.

03-18-2009, 10:38 PM	#69
SubMissioN TRIBE Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Toronto Posts: 845	You need to check alot of things. Make sure you have nothing thats starts up on your toolbar when you boot up. You have to make sure you set your program settings to optimize to multi threading if you have a multicore processor. You have to adjust your sound card settings for latency. Depending on your motherboard you can overclock your processor. Get as much ram as you can. You can devote memory from your graphics by changing your operating system settings. Get a faster harddrive that reads and writes quicker. Partition your harddrive and install your plugins on a seperate partition from the one your software is installed on. Start with that.

03-18-2009, 10:55 PM	#70
SubMissioN TRIBE Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Toronto Posts: 845	Oh yeah once you've maximized your ram, reduce your paging file so your cpu doesn't require your harddrive for memory. It slows it down. It needs to be able to access the ram directly.

03-18-2009, 10:58 PM	#71
SubMissioN TRIBE Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Toronto Posts: 845	Then tweak your Ram in Bios. http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...am,650-10.html

03-19-2009, 12:49 AM	#72
unique2100 TRIBE Promoter Join Date: Jan 2000 Location: toronto Posts: 10,454	I key is dope. I now have one thanks to the GF. Records directly on to your ipod or to a gig stick. Wave or mp3. Badness.

03-19-2009, 02:00 AM	#75
SubMissioN TRIBE Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Toronto Posts: 845	I understand what your saying but I'll explain it to you if the original wave isn't recorded at the same sample rate as the output like for instance 96k then the sound resolution (the dynamics) isn't there so when you play it out at 96k your just hearing the compressed version of the actual song. Don't get me wrong. 320 mp3s are considered cd quality but you have to remember that cd quality is only 44.1k which means that a 320 mp3 is a compressed version of 44.1k. So if you play that through a mixer that outputs 96k your not getting the most out of it and it changes your tempo map which changes the bpm at times. If your wave is 96k on a cd which is impossible then you would get the best sound quality. But if you use an external harddrive with 96k wave files and try it. You'll know exactly what i mean. It takes more harddrive space....but theres always going to be enough room for a set if you have a big harddrive.