Do too many romantic comedies affect women's ability to date real men?

kaniz · 11-19-2009, 01:56 PM

Discuss.

m0ff · 11-19-2009, 02:05 PM

I'll give you a topic...

The peanut is neither a pea, nor a nut. Discuss.

Flashy_McFlash · 11-19-2009, 02:06 PM

I find the unrealistic standards set forth by the Hugh Grants, Matthew McConagheys, and Mark Buffalos of the world to be tres difficile to live up to.

How are you gonna compete with a time-travelling dingbat who fucks his future wife when she's underage?

basilisk · 11-19-2009, 02:48 PM

With this:

basilisk · 11-19-2009, 02:50 PM

Which is to say, with an immortal dingbat who becomes so bored with life that thousands of his future progeny team up to find new and interesting ways to stimulate a man who has seen and done everything. I think it starts with twin female clones and moves right up to travelling back in time so he can sleep with his own mother. Intergalactic high fives all around.

rawd · 11-19-2009, 02:53 PM

Real

dr. claw · 11-19-2009, 03:01 PM

As much as I'd love to deride this thread query as being stupid and smelly, I have to wonder at it's veracity. When I was forced by friends to watch that abysmal Sex in the City gonorrheaic movie adaptation, people in the theatre literally had tears streaming down their faces. Moreover, summed the experience as "you'll laugh, you'll cry, it's amazing". Was I the only girl in the world who likened watching it to being waterboarded at Guantanamo Bay?

PS I'd say dumb magazines like Cosmo and stupid chick lit books are worse for that shit.

Lysistrata · 11-19-2009, 03:04 PM

well, according to shopaholic the best way to get a guy is to LIE LIE LIE.

lol, basilisk. heinlein's fun to read but suuuuuch a dog.

m0ff · 11-19-2009, 03:09 PM

I'd say if a woman is comparing potential partners to the characters actors portray and is using those characters as a benchmark for determining if a potential partner is boyfriendable or not, the problem is NOT with romantic comedies.

Flashy_McFlash · 11-19-2009, 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dr. claw

As much as I'd love to deride this thread query as being stupid and smelly, I have to wonder at it's veracity. When I was forced by friends to watch that abysmal Sex in the City gonorrheaic movie adaptation, people in the theatre literally had tears streaming down their faces. Moreover, summed the experience as "you'll laugh, you'll cry, it's amazing". Was I the only girl in the world who likened watching it to being waterboarded at Guantanamo Bay?

PS I'd say dumb magazines like Cosmo and stupid chick lit books are worse for that shit.

It is a bit terrifying that some women think that this and other movies of their ilk are documentaries, and that any right-thinking man is going to run through a goddamn rainstorm to embrace you in slow motion. You know what? It's cold out and this jacket isn't waterproof. Also, chances are that the people with this idea look as far off from Rachel McAdams as I do from John Cusack.

sk8 · 11-20-2009, 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by dr. claw

Was I the only girl in the world who likened watching it to being waterboarded at Guantanamo Bay?

I have not watched it and will never watch it as I feel this is most likely a fair comparison. I have also never seen the notebook as I fear I may go blind for it causing me to stab my own eyes out.

I am not a fan of the genre at all. There must be stupid humour or shit blowing up in my movies. For example my choice of movie on my birthday was Iron Man. Which was awesome by the way.

m0ff · 11-20-2009, 09:08 AM

Romantic comedies are neither romantic, nor a comedy.

Discuss.

Lysistrata · 11-20-2009, 09:25 AM

i watched 10 minutes of the notebook before deciding i'd rather be female circumsized before continuing to watch.

flashy's right, it totally compromises real romance. you know what real romance is? when i see a jar of gourmet blue cheese in oil at the store and i impulse buy it (i hate blue cheese) and send it to my gf in another city via a mutual lover when he visits her. THAT'S romantic in my books.

Muffin · 11-20-2009, 09:34 AM

I think that, as is the case with any other genre, there are a few "chic lit" books and movies that are pretty witty and insightful, but they are rare gems floating in a sea of crap. The Sex and the City Movie made me embarrassed to be a female, but I freely admit to enjoying the first Bridget Jones' book and movie. I also think When Harry Met Sally was pretty great for it's time, and I will always love Annie Hall. So far, this has not affected my ability to date real men.

Sal De Ban · 11-20-2009, 09:43 AM

when i hunker down to watch a nice rom-com, there is a little mason jar under the sink for me to leave my balls in.

xsre · 11-20-2009, 09:55 AM

Often I think that the portrayal of men in female-directed novels/films/television give women a false impression of how real men behave in relationships. I'm not going to lie about what movies and books I've read - I've seen Sex & the City (loved it), the Time Traveler's Wife is one of my top 5 books of all time (although the movie left something to be desired) and I've read one of the Shopaholic books (too Bridget Jones-y without the Bridget Jones for me) and all the Jane Austen I've been able to get my hands on. I will absolutely admit that when my boyfriend doesn't react to a situation the way Hugh Grant did in Four Weddings, I'm a bit thrown. But recovery is quick and I remember he's a real person who is totally separate from me and we don't always know exactly what the other person wants/needs, etc.

rawd · 11-20-2009, 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sal De Ban

when i hunker down to watch a nice rom-com, there is a little mason jar under the sink for me to leave my balls in.

Is this before or after she drags you shoe shopping

Sal De Ban · 11-20-2009, 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rawd

Is this before or after she drags you shoe shopping

she doesn't have to drag me if i take my salt peters regularly

Flashy_McFlash · 11-20-2009, 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lysistrata

you know what real romance is? when i see a jar of gourmet blue cheese in oil at the store and i impulse buy it (i hate blue cheese) and send it to my gf in another city via a mutual lover when he visits her. THAT'S romantic in my books.

YES! This is the kind of romance I subscribe to, along with your newsletter.

The opposite end of the spectrum from Sex and the City is anything by Nick Hornby that claims to be some kind of metric of what men really think. Maybe he gets a couple of things right, but High Fidelity still ended with John Cusack in the rain.

Lysistrata · 11-20-2009, 01:34 PM

my mother just gave me a nick hornby book. is she trying to tell me something? like "date a man", perhaps? or, maybe, "go ahead with dating women, men are pathetic"?

Persephone · 11-20-2009, 02:30 PM

This is a chicken-egg question.

Are women who watch romantic comedies more likely to have a distorted vision of romance and therefore ascribe to the romance in those movies, or do romantic comedies distort a woman's romantic expectations?

Kaniz has noted that there is a correlation between women who watch romantic comedies, and a certain set of expectations from men in relationships. Hard to tease out what the cause might be.

I appreciate all kinds of romance...down on one knee, bouquet of roses, door opening, jar-o-cheese sent from afar.

Ok, maybe I don't appreciate all kinds of romance. If a guy wrote a cheesy poem about me, I wouldn't be able to keep a straight face.

MissBlu · 11-20-2009, 02:52 PM

personally, i am not a fan of romance, it makes me feel funny. sooo, i definitely does not effect my ability to date real men. what's important & better than silly romance.

i would rather have a dependable guy who stops at the beer store on his way home, and cooks a good dinner for me.

Flashy_McFlash · 11-20-2009, 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by persephone

this is a chicken-egg question.

Are women who watch romantic comedies more likely to have a distorted vision of romance and therefore ascribe to the romance in those movies, or do romantic comedies distort a woman's romantic expectations?

Kaniz has noted that there is a correlation between women who watch romantic comedies, and a certain set of expectations from men in relationships. Hard to tease out what the cause might be.

I appreciate all kinds of romance...down on one knee, bouquet of roses, door opening, jar-o-cheese sent from afar.

Ok, maybe i don't appreciate all kinds of romance. If a guy wrote a cheesy poem about me, i wouldn't be able to keep a straight face.

what if he's in the rain, whining like a little bitch instead of saving the world from 2012?

Boss Hog · 11-20-2009, 07:39 PM

Dear women: you'll never find what you want in a man. Find someone who lives the same fantasy as you. Eat pussy.

mariazmess · 11-21-2009, 10:39 AM

geezus. this should be merged with the "does watching porn make men unable to enjoy 'real' women" thread. Mark Ruffalo is fuckin harmless. Get over yourselves.

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11-19-2009, 02:05 PM	#2
m0ff TRIBE Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 3,737	I'll give you a topic... The peanut is neither a pea, nor a nut. Discuss.

11-19-2009, 02:06 PM	#3
Flashy_McFlash Member Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 51,854	I find the unrealistic standards set forth by the Hugh Grants, Matthew McConagheys, and Mark Buffalos of the world to be tres difficile to live up to. How are you gonna compete with a time-travelling dingbat who fucks his future wife when she's underage?

11-19-2009, 02:48 PM	#4
basilisk TRIBE Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Undefined. Posts: 4,369	With this:

11-19-2009, 02:50 PM	#5
basilisk TRIBE Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Undefined. Posts: 4,369	Which is to say, with an immortal dingbat who becomes so bored with life that thousands of his future progeny team up to find new and interesting ways to stimulate a man who has seen and done everything. I think it starts with twin female clones and moves right up to travelling back in time so he can sleep with his own mother. Intergalactic high fives all around.

11-19-2009, 02:53 PM	#6
rawd TRIBE Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: mirelurkin' Posts: 920	Real

11-19-2009, 03:01 PM	#7
dr. claw Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 4,784	As much as I'd love to deride this thread query as being stupid and smelly, I have to wonder at it's veracity. When I was forced by friends to watch that abysmal Sex in the City gonorrheaic movie adaptation, people in the theatre literally had tears streaming down their faces. Moreover, summed the experience as "you'll laugh, you'll cry, it's amazing". Was I the only girl in the world who likened watching it to being waterboarded at Guantanamo Bay? PS I'd say dumb magazines like Cosmo and stupid chick lit books are worse for that shit.

11-19-2009, 03:04 PM	#8
Lysistrata Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 28,243	well, according to shopaholic the best way to get a guy is to LIE LIE LIE. lol, basilisk. heinlein's fun to read but suuuuuch a dog.

11-19-2009, 03:09 PM	#9
m0ff TRIBE Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 3,737	I'd say if a woman is comparing potential partners to the characters actors portray and is using those characters as a benchmark for determining if a potential partner is boyfriendable or not, the problem is NOT with romantic comedies.

11-20-2009, 09:08 AM	#12
m0ff TRIBE Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 3,737	Romantic comedies are neither romantic, nor a comedy. Discuss.

11-20-2009, 09:25 AM	#13
Lysistrata Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 28,243	i watched 10 minutes of the notebook before deciding i'd rather be female circumsized before continuing to watch. flashy's right, it totally compromises real romance. you know what real romance is? when i see a jar of gourmet blue cheese in oil at the store and i impulse buy it (i hate blue cheese) and send it to my gf in another city via a mutual lover when he visits her. THAT'S romantic in my books.

11-20-2009, 09:34 AM	#14
Muffin TRIBE Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: in a wizard cookie Posts: 964	I think that, as is the case with any other genre, there are a few "chic lit" books and movies that are pretty witty and insightful, but they are rare gems floating in a sea of crap. The Sex and the City Movie made me embarrassed to be a female, but I freely admit to enjoying the first Bridget Jones' book and movie. I also think When Harry Met Sally was pretty great for it's time, and I will always love Annie Hall. So far, this has not affected my ability to date real men.

11-20-2009, 09:43 AM	#15
Sal De Ban TRIBE Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: in the wood pile Posts: 7,566	when i hunker down to watch a nice rom-com, there is a little mason jar under the sink for me to leave my balls in.

11-20-2009, 09:55 AM	#16
xsre TRIBE Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: I don't have time for special snowflakes. Posts: 2,872	Often I think that the portrayal of men in female-directed novels/films/television give women a false impression of how real men behave in relationships. I'm not going to lie about what movies and books I've read - I've seen Sex & the City (loved it), the Time Traveler's Wife is one of my top 5 books of all time (although the movie left something to be desired) and I've read one of the Shopaholic books (too Bridget Jones-y without the Bridget Jones for me) and all the Jane Austen I've been able to get my hands on. I will absolutely admit that when my boyfriend doesn't react to a situation the way Hugh Grant did in Four Weddings, I'm a bit thrown. But recovery is quick and I remember he's a real person who is totally separate from me and we don't always know exactly what the other person wants/needs, etc.

11-20-2009, 01:34 PM	#20
Lysistrata Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 28,243	my mother just gave me a nick hornby book. is she trying to tell me something? like "date a man", perhaps? or, maybe, "go ahead with dating women, men are pathetic"?

11-20-2009, 02:30 PM	#21
Persephone TRIBE Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Fear does not exist in this dojo! Posts: 4,544	This is a chicken-egg question. Are women who watch romantic comedies more likely to have a distorted vision of romance and therefore ascribe to the romance in those movies, or do romantic comedies distort a woman's romantic expectations? Kaniz has noted that there is a correlation between women who watch romantic comedies, and a certain set of expectations from men in relationships. Hard to tease out what the cause might be. I appreciate all kinds of romance...down on one knee, bouquet of roses, door opening, jar-o-cheese sent from afar. Ok, maybe I don't appreciate all kinds of romance. If a guy wrote a cheesy poem about me, I wouldn't be able to keep a straight face.

11-20-2009, 02:52 PM	#22
MissBlu TRIBE Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: The Woodlands Posts: 15,163	personally, i am not a fan of romance, it makes me feel funny. sooo, i definitely does not effect my ability to date real men. what's important & better than silly romance. i would rather have a dependable guy who stops at the beer store on his way home, and cooks a good dinner for me.

11-20-2009, 07:39 PM	#24
Boss Hog TRIBE Member Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: applying for the high school get-along gang Posts: 51,272	Dear women: you'll never find what you want in a man. Find someone who lives the same fantasy as you. Eat pussy.

11-21-2009, 10:39 AM	#25
mariazmess TRIBE Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Toronto Posts: 9,838	geezus. this should be merged with the "does watching porn make men unable to enjoy 'real' women" thread. Mark Ruffalo is fuckin harmless. Get over yourselves.