Do too many romantic comedies affect women's ability to date real men?

Persephone · 11-21-2009, 12:42 PM

you know what real romance is? Cleaning the kitchen, without having to be asked. That is fucking romantic as hell. Heck, doing any kind of cleaning without it being mentioned would be romantic.

NemIsis · 11-21-2009, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Persephone

you know what real romance is? Cleaning the kitchen, without having to be asked. That is fucking romantic as hell. Heck, doing any kind of cleaning without it being mentioned would be romantic.

Amen sista.

It would also be nice if they didn't feel so threatened when we come up with a solution that works better than theirs. This happened with someone recently where he insisted I was wrong, and then when we finally did attempt it my way, it worked. No "Thanks" or "Hey, you were right."

Boys are weird.

Boss Hog · 11-21-2009, 04:55 PM

Then he's an idiot.

miss riot · 11-22-2009, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Persephone

you know what real romance is? Cleaning the kitchen, without having to be asked. That is fucking romantic as hell. Heck, doing any kind of cleaning without it being mentioned would be romantic.

this.

so

much.

grumblegirl · 11-23-2009, 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Persephone

you know what real romance is? Cleaning the kitchen, without having to be asked. That is fucking romantic as hell. Heck, doing any kind of cleaning without it being mentioned would be romantic.

Yes!

Why do *most* men not understand this? It is so simple: clean, without prompting, or complaining = get some!

m0ff · 11-23-2009, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Persephone

you know what real romance is? Cleaning the kitchen, without having to be asked. That is fucking romantic as hell. Heck, doing any kind of cleaning without it being mentioned would be romantic.

THIS.

The boy cleaned the coffeemaker the other day - like REALLY cleaned it, and wiped down the counter to boot. I jumped him immediately.

Flashy_McFlash · 11-23-2009, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by mariazmess

Mark Ruffalo is fuckin harmless.

Maybe you call an inability to spell 'Buffalo' correctly harmless, but I think it's a travesty.

ChrisD · 11-23-2009, 11:12 AM

I actually enjoy cleaning, but only certain areas. Fridge I love cleaning it, and organizing it, bathroom, no worries. Laundry, I loath it.

PAUZE · 11-23-2009, 11:49 AM

I clean and cook most of everything, girl thinks I'm nuts!

MissBlu · 11-23-2009, 12:02 PM

i guess i have a super romantic bf right now, when i go over, he does all the cooking, keeps his house clean, and stops at the beer store. we have a winner.

Persephone · 11-23-2009, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by m0ff

THIS.

The boy cleaned the coffeemaker the other day - like REALLY cleaned it, and wiped down the counter to boot. I jumped him immediately.

seriously? He wiped down the counter afterwards? On his own, without any prompting?

I've been trying to teach that "finishing touch" for 2 years. Its totally intuitive to me, I don't even think of the kitchen as "clean" if the counter wasn't wiped. My guy on the otherhand...

Lil'Timmy · 11-23-2009, 03:18 PM

Well, realistically, after New Moon this weekend I clearly

a) Need to be a vampire or a werewolf
b) Need to have that Lautner kids' body
c) or Red Voltiarrreirerrery (whatever they're called) contact lenses.

Its that or its over.
Time to brood.

Persephone · 11-23-2009, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by grumblegirl

Yes!

Why do *most* men not understand this? It is so simple: clean, without prompting, or complaining = get some!

its kind of weird how men and women are so different about this, and I can't pinpoint why. But from my experience, there are 2 different ways to approach cleaning:

1) daily maintenance for small tasks, larger tasks reserved for a specified time
2) let things reach disaster status, then clean like a mofo

To me, many men don't clean without prompting because they use approach #2; when the home has reached a sufficiently disastrous state, then cleaning will commence. Usually, they have to live in that disastrous state for several days before the urge to clean rears its ugly head. I tend to take approach #1, which means that the counter gets wiped down every day and that dishes shouldn't sit in the sink (for example). Under approach #1, the disaster state is rarely, if ever, reached. So, I see things that need to be cleaned; the boy doesn't see a disaster, so he doesn't feel the need to clean.

At least, that's my observation in a very small sample size and based on other anecdotal evidence

I guess this thread got hijacked a wee bit.

ila · 11-23-2009, 04:05 PM

If I had to clean up after my boyfriend regularly, I'd lose it.

We both clean when it's dirty and slack on mess unless we're having company, at which point we agree on a time to do some dusting and make it look like we're good housekeepers.

Booty Bits · 11-23-2009, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Persephone

seriously? He wiped down the counter afterwards? On his own, without any prompting?

I've been trying to teach that "finishing touch" for 2 years. Its totally intuitive to me, I don't even think of the kitchen as "clean" if the counter wasn't wiped. My guy on the otherhand...

haha! same here, though i've only been at it for about a year. i still have hope.

Sal De Ban · 11-23-2009, 05:03 PM

i take it slightly further, and wipe down the cupboards. no. that's a lie. i have done this once at the most. never, at the least.

Littlest Hobo · 11-23-2009, 05:18 PM

I'm a dish-washing mf. And I do all the dishes, not some, not most, but all, including the big-ass roasting pans filled with gravy remnants from the delicious chicken I cooked earlier aww yeah. I also do the coffemaker, including the filter basket because that shit doesn't clean itself. You also have to dump the food bits from the plug at the bottom of the sink, because this is not the Flintstones where there is a prehistoric wise-cracking critter there. Wiping the counters is very important, and sweeping the floor is a must.

Of course I can't start any of this without my dishwashing gloves because the water is blazing hot and the ladies will be too once I'm done scrubbing. No gloves, no clean kitchen loves.

zoo · 11-23-2009, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Persephone

1) daily maintenance for small tasks, larger tasks reserved for a specified time

This is my GF

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2) let things reach disaster status, then clean like a mofo

This is me.

I feel your SO's pain.

zoo · 11-23-2009, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by zoo

I feel your SO's pain.

What I mean is - we don't want to disappoint you here. We know it's important to you, and that fact makes it important to us as well. It's just tough to, in the short term, create long-term behavioural changes. Sure the place might be clean for the next week, but in two months we'll be back to allowing the dish pile to reach critical mass before realizing "argh, there are no reasonably clean forks left."

basilisk · 11-23-2009, 05:37 PM

That's funny. All the exes I've lived with weren't exactly tidy... not wanting to live in a disaster zone led to considerable strain on both relationships.

Persephone · 11-23-2009, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by zoo

What I mean is - we don't want to disappoint you here. We know it's important to you, and that fact makes it important to us as well. It's just tough to, in the short term, create long-term behavioural changes. Sure the place might be clean for the next week, but in two months we'll be back to allowing the dish pile to reach critical mass before realizing "argh, there are no reasonably clean forks left."

tripleup · 11-23-2009, 07:16 PM

How Twilight Works - The Oatmeal -

A fairly good rip on the whole Twilight fad, and the romance genre.

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11-21-2009, 12:42 PM	#26
Persephone TRIBE Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: wasting time on Facebook Posts: 4,410	you know what real romance is? Cleaning the kitchen, without having to be asked. That is fucking romantic as hell. Heck, doing any kind of cleaning without it being mentioned would be romantic.

11-21-2009, 04:55 PM	#28
Boss Hog Member Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: applying for the high school get-along gang Posts: 51,269	Then he's an idiot.

11-23-2009, 11:12 AM	#33
ChrisD TRIBE Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: The D is for Delicious! Posts: 24,702	I actually enjoy cleaning, but only certain areas. Fridge I love cleaning it, and organizing it, bathroom, no worries. Laundry, I loath it.

11-23-2009, 11:49 AM	#34
PAUZE TRIBE Promoter Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: a cold and far away place. Posts: 733	I clean and cook most of everything, girl thinks I'm nuts!

11-23-2009, 12:02 PM	#35
MissBlu TRIBE Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: The Woodlands Posts: 14,962	i guess i have a super romantic bf right now, when i go over, he does all the cooking, keeps his house clean, and stops at the beer store. we have a winner.

11-23-2009, 03:18 PM	#37
Lil'Timmy TRIBE Promoter Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: 9 Mississippi, 10 Mississippi, here I come! HA HA, I wish! Posts: 11,665	Well, realistically, after New Moon this weekend I clearly a) Need to be a vampire or a werewolf b) Need to have that Lautner kids' body c) or Red Voltiarrreirerrery (whatever they're called) contact lenses. Its that or its over. Time to brood.

11-23-2009, 04:05 PM	#39
ila TRIBE Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 9,566	If I had to clean up after my boyfriend regularly, I'd lose it. We both clean when it's dirty and slack on mess unless we're having company, at which point we agree on a time to do some dusting and make it look like we're good housekeepers.

11-23-2009, 05:03 PM	#41
Sal De Ban TRIBE Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Minivan: 2 in the front, 5 in the back Posts: 6,218	i take it slightly further, and wipe down the cupboards. no. that's a lie. i have done this once at the most. never, at the least.

11-23-2009, 05:18 PM	#42
Littlest Hobo TRIBE Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: You're in love, have a beer. Posts: 6,586	I'm a dish-washing mf. And I do all the dishes, not some, not most, but all, including the big-ass roasting pans filled with gravy remnants from the delicious chicken I cooked earlier aww yeah. I also do the coffemaker, including the filter basket because that shit doesn't clean itself. You also have to dump the food bits from the plug at the bottom of the sink, because this is not the Flintstones where there is a prehistoric wise-cracking critter there. Wiping the counters is very important, and sweeping the floor is a must. Of course I can't start any of this without my dishwashing gloves because the water is blazing hot and the ladies will be too once I'm done scrubbing. No gloves, no clean kitchen loves.

11-23-2009, 05:37 PM	#45
basilisk TRIBE Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Hasn't read the bill. :( Posts: 4,215	That's funny. All the exes I've lived with weren't exactly tidy... not wanting to live in a disaster zone led to considerable strain on both relationships.

11-23-2009, 07:16 PM	#47
tripleup TRIBE Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 1,189	How Twilight Works - The Oatmeal - A fairly good rip on the whole Twilight fad, and the romance genre.